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		<title>By: mandru</title>
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		<dc:creator>mandru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you said it, al thornton has POTENTIAL. but the fact of the matter is that potential hardly ever becomes realized in the clippers franchise or under dunleavy for that matter. no matter how hard you try, you can&#039;t teach basketball iq.

when al learns his role as a slasher, he&#039;ll be no more than a one-dimensional player. his passing skills are lackluster and a majority of his offensive decisions over the past two years have shown little growth. games like these that he had are great, but it&#039;s hardly representative of his body of work as a player.

it&#039;s true that thornton can be a good scorer, but &quot;can&quot; is the verb that has become most prevalent in the clippers&#039; history. and we all know what the franchise has been...

i&#039;m assuming that tirades against thornton and boomdizzle are from people who SUPPORT the clippers. and generally speaking, they&#039;re in the right. flashes of brilliance are not a reason to invest so heavily in a player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you said it, al thornton has POTENTIAL. but the fact of the matter is that potential hardly ever becomes realized in the clippers franchise or under dunleavy for that matter. no matter how hard you try, you can&#8217;t teach basketball iq.</p>
<p>when al learns his role as a slasher, he&#8217;ll be no more than a one-dimensional player. his passing skills are lackluster and a majority of his offensive decisions over the past two years have shown little growth. games like these that he had are great, but it&#8217;s hardly representative of his body of work as a player.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s true that thornton can be a good scorer, but &#8220;can&#8221; is the verb that has become most prevalent in the clippers&#8217; history. and we all know what the franchise has been&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m assuming that tirades against thornton and boomdizzle are from people who SUPPORT the clippers. and generally speaking, they&#8217;re in the right. flashes of brilliance are not a reason to invest so heavily in a player.</p>
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		<title>By: McPancakes4u</title>
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		<dc:creator>McPancakes4u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if these hornets trade rumors are true, I would trade kaman, jason hart for james posey and tyson chandler.

i don&#039;t know if salaries match up, but sounds like a good trade to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if these hornets trade rumors are true, I would trade kaman, jason hart for james posey and tyson chandler.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know if salaries match up, but sounds like a good trade to me.</p>
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		<title>By: BoomDizzleisaCipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoomDizzleisaCipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where&#039;s all the thorton haters now? its games like this that show you the talent and potential he has, just give him a little more tim to make him learn that he cant be satisfied forcing jumpers but instead needs to attack the basket...its that simple

and you definitely don&#039;t trade baron, camby, randolph, gordon or thorton at this point.  with this group you have an unguardable offense and a defense that is good enough (if the players are motivated to try).  I can see trading kaman and ricky davis though (add jason hart and fred jones to that list if anyone would want them)...ricky is just roster filler at this point, and i&#039;ve come to the conclusion that kaman really just doesn&#039;t match the rest of the team with his slow low post game, and if you can get someone like butler, shawn marion, gerald wallace, tayshaun prince, hedo turkoglu, josh howard, dunce jr. or lamar (all those teams could really use a big, no?) for kaman and change (maybe draft picks), then you could use them starting so that either gordon or thorton comes off the bench with some energy along with guys that are better than people think (novak, mardy collins, jordan and mike taylor), then i think we could have a pretty solid team that is built to not only compete for the immediate future but also has some younger talent that can keep it going with baron and camby start falling off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where&#8217;s all the thorton haters now? its games like this that show you the talent and potential he has, just give him a little more tim to make him learn that he cant be satisfied forcing jumpers but instead needs to attack the basket&#8230;its that simple</p>
<p>and you definitely don&#8217;t trade baron, camby, randolph, gordon or thorton at this point.  with this group you have an unguardable offense and a defense that is good enough (if the players are motivated to try).  I can see trading kaman and ricky davis though (add jason hart and fred jones to that list if anyone would want them)&#8230;ricky is just roster filler at this point, and i&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that kaman really just doesn&#8217;t match the rest of the team with his slow low post game, and if you can get someone like butler, shawn marion, gerald wallace, tayshaun prince, hedo turkoglu, josh howard, dunce jr. or lamar (all those teams could really use a big, no?) for kaman and change (maybe draft picks), then you could use them starting so that either gordon or thorton comes off the bench with some energy along with guys that are better than people think (novak, mardy collins, jordan and mike taylor), then i think we could have a pretty solid team that is built to not only compete for the immediate future but also has some younger talent that can keep it going with baron and camby start falling off</p>
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		<title>By: Philip J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Stop Trade. I hope Camby decides to stay, which seems unlikely (even though he says his wife and kids love LA), but even if he goes next year, I&#039;d like for Kaman and Jordan to get some more time to learn from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Stop Trade. I hope Camby decides to stay, which seems unlikely (even though he says his wife and kids love LA), but even if he goes next year, I&#8217;d like for Kaman and Jordan to get some more time to learn from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think when Kaman comes back, he could be effective coming off the bench. Zach and Camby can&#039;t hold up for too many minutes, and Jordan is just not ready. 

But if you heard that interview on Saturday with Kaman, you&#039;d have to think they are trying really hard to move him. One team that is probably interested is, believe it or not, the Hornets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think when Kaman comes back, he could be effective coming off the bench. Zach and Camby can&#8217;t hold up for too many minutes, and Jordan is just not ready. </p>
<p>But if you heard that interview on Saturday with Kaman, you&#8217;d have to think they are trying really hard to move him. One team that is probably interested is, believe it or not, the Hornets.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the 3 pointer has come out of nowhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the 3 pointer has come out of nowhere</p>
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		<title>By: pete mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cant control the vets? how is that clear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cant control the vets? how is that clear?</p>
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		<title>By: Dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I giggled at can&#039;t jump over a frozen pizza. 

Unathletic, out of shape 6&#039;9 post players usually can&#039;t hit you for 30 on any given night. Strange talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I giggled at can&#8217;t jump over a frozen pizza. </p>
<p>Unathletic, out of shape 6&#8217;9 post players usually can&#8217;t hit you for 30 on any given night. Strange talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Stian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have positive vet leadership with guys like Camby and Zach. But, we also have Baron who is undermining the team because he&#039;d rather go down playing his way than succeed on someone else&#039;s terms. He is a cancer who needs to be traded ASAP.  It would be nice to bring Mobley back in some capacity - he was really good for our young guys and he had seniority on the team and thus could&#039;ve put Baron in his place when he started to act up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have positive vet leadership with guys like Camby and Zach. But, we also have Baron who is undermining the team because he&#8217;d rather go down playing his way than succeed on someone else&#8217;s terms. He is a cancer who needs to be traded ASAP.  It would be nice to bring Mobley back in some capacity &#8211; he was really good for our young guys and he had seniority on the team and thus could&#8217;ve put Baron in his place when he started to act up.</p>
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		<title>By: ACD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this quote by Atlanta&#039;s coach:

&quot;I feared that coming in,&quot; Coach Mike Woodson said. &quot;You can&#039;t look at their record. Their starting five are as good as any starting five in the league.&quot;

That&#039;s the kind of respect that i used to love 2 years ago.  I hate rooting for the team that&#039;s the punchline all the time.  Respect feels good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this quote by Atlanta&#8217;s coach:</p>
<p>&#8220;I feared that coming in,&#8221; Coach Mike Woodson said. &#8220;You can&#8217;t look at their record. Their starting five are as good as any starting five in the league.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the kind of respect that i used to love 2 years ago.  I hate rooting for the team that&#8217;s the punchline all the time.  Respect feels good.</p>
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