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		<title>By: Kirbs</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6660</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For F###SAKE go back and look at the box scores they played with more than 7 each game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For F###SAKE go back and look at the box scores they played with more than 7 each game.</p>
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		<title>By: VH1</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator>VH1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as opposed to what?  winning 20 games for each of the next 6 years, yes, that is exactly what i want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as opposed to what?  winning 20 games for each of the next 6 years, yes, that is exactly what i want.</p>
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		<title>By: FireDunleavy .com</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6250</link>
		<dc:creator>FireDunleavy .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only rebuilding I believe in is what the Celtics did.

You have 3 more years with Gordon, probably 4.  He&#039;d be a college junior next year.  You are only going to get 1-2 years with Gordon playing at a high level.  Thorton can leave a year earlier.  They&#039;re not going to stay if the Clippers are constantly rebuilding.

So you want to rebuild and maybe in 2011-2012 season they&#039;d be a good team?  By 2014 they&#039;d could make a run at a title?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only rebuilding I believe in is what the Celtics did.</p>
<p>You have 3 more years with Gordon, probably 4.  He&#8217;d be a college junior next year.  You are only going to get 1-2 years with Gordon playing at a high level.  Thorton can leave a year earlier.  They&#8217;re not going to stay if the Clippers are constantly rebuilding.</p>
<p>So you want to rebuild and maybe in 2011-2012 season they&#8217;d be a good team?  By 2014 they&#8217;d could make a run at a title?</p>
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		<title>By: eastie Rich</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6248</link>
		<dc:creator>eastie Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would make for an ineresting list, but with all the roster chanes would really take some effort.

  All I&#039;m saying, is why pay guys tens of millions of $ to play like they could care less?  I would bet we&#039;d could do better with NBADL players and not be tied up financially forever.

  If I&#039;m going to go to Staples and watch the team get blown out, wouldn&#039;t it be easer to take if the team wasn&#039;t committed to paying Zbo, BD and Kaman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would make for an ineresting list, but with all the roster chanes would really take some effort.</p>
<p>  All I&#8217;m saying, is why pay guys tens of millions of $ to play like they could care less?  I would bet we&#8217;d could do better with NBADL players and not be tied up financially forever.</p>
<p>  If I&#8217;m going to go to Staples and watch the team get blown out, wouldn&#8217;t it be easer to take if the team wasn&#8217;t committed to paying Zbo, BD and Kaman?</p>
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		<title>By: VH1</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6243</link>
		<dc:creator>VH1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, rebuilding is the way to go.  When a team properly rebuilds, they can be enjoyable to watch almost right away (see OKC).  If we are lucky and get a player like Griffin or Rubio this year, trade for a few extra picks in 2010 (which looks like a great draft), develop and play our young guys, we could make an impact very quickly.  The current team, at best, will sneak into the playoffs and that is only if things go perfectly.

As far as Dunleavy, i have a few thoughts.  1)  trading for better talent does not necessarily improve the team.  i.e. chemistry is important and we have NONE  2)  sometimes, the team just needs a change of pace, that is why there is a coaching carousel every couple years.  3)  pick players who fit your coaching style.  

Starting the official John Wall in 2010 campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, rebuilding is the way to go.  When a team properly rebuilds, they can be enjoyable to watch almost right away (see OKC).  If we are lucky and get a player like Griffin or Rubio this year, trade for a few extra picks in 2010 (which looks like a great draft), develop and play our young guys, we could make an impact very quickly.  The current team, at best, will sneak into the playoffs and that is only if things go perfectly.</p>
<p>As far as Dunleavy, i have a few thoughts.  1)  trading for better talent does not necessarily improve the team.  i.e. chemistry is important and we have NONE  2)  sometimes, the team just needs a change of pace, that is why there is a coaching carousel every couple years.  3)  pick players who fit your coaching style.  </p>
<p>Starting the official John Wall in 2010 campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: bongstradamus</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6237</link>
		<dc:creator>bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We raid the NBDL every year.  How do you think we ever get 15 players on our roster?  I dont think I can count how many point guards we&#039;ve pulled up from the depths of a sub-league throughout our history.  For awhile, every year we had a new point guard that came from a sub-league.  McInnis, Hudson, Boykins were three that actually made it to bigger and better.  Then we raided europe for Jaric.  Rodriguez, Taylor, Collins, Dickau.  Geez, I think I can keep going.  Theres been so many.

In fact that might be kinda fun, making a running list of CBA and NBDL players the Clippers have pilfered throughout the years.  I think we could make a separate list of draft busts too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We raid the NBDL every year.  How do you think we ever get 15 players on our roster?  I dont think I can count how many point guards we&#8217;ve pulled up from the depths of a sub-league throughout our history.  For awhile, every year we had a new point guard that came from a sub-league.  McInnis, Hudson, Boykins were three that actually made it to bigger and better.  Then we raided europe for Jaric.  Rodriguez, Taylor, Collins, Dickau.  Geez, I think I can keep going.  Theres been so many.</p>
<p>In fact that might be kinda fun, making a running list of CBA and NBDL players the Clippers have pilfered throughout the years.  I think we could make a separate list of draft busts too.</p>
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		<title>By: bongstradamus</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6236</link>
		<dc:creator>bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of our personal feelings for Maggette, the fact remains that this team largely remained in obscurity until Corey and Elton arrived.  They are pretty much the two players who made the last 6 years even possible.  As far as team history, we need to remember how important they were to that small era of occasionally winning which we are painfully aware; has ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of our personal feelings for Maggette, the fact remains that this team largely remained in obscurity until Corey and Elton arrived.  They are pretty much the two players who made the last 6 years even possible.  As far as team history, we need to remember how important they were to that small era of occasionally winning which we are painfully aware; has ended.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Mays</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6225</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Mays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present roster is weaker at every position with the probable exception of the 2, which was more-or less a wash... 1. Baron is a loser and a dog, showing none of the leadership of Cassell. Big advantage Cassell 2. Mobley was a solid vet. Gordon a very promising rookie. Close to even 3. Maggette was significantly better than Thornton. Big advantage Maggette 4. Z-bo can&#039;t hold Brand&#039;s jock. Huge advantage Brand 5. Kaman is Kaman, except the new Kaman never plays. Huge advantage 2006 Kaman... And Livinston was better than any bench player we currently have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present roster is weaker at every position with the probable exception of the 2, which was more-or less a wash&#8230; 1. Baron is a loser and a dog, showing none of the leadership of Cassell. Big advantage Cassell 2. Mobley was a solid vet. Gordon a very promising rookie. Close to even 3. Maggette was significantly better than Thornton. Big advantage Maggette 4. Z-bo can&#8217;t hold Brand&#8217;s jock. Huge advantage Brand 5. Kaman is Kaman, except the new Kaman never plays. Huge advantage 2006 Kaman&#8230; And Livinston was better than any bench player we currently have.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Mays</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6151</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Mays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, we need to get incredibly lucky to make up for our overwhelming ineptitude. Win two lotteries in a row... That&#039;s as good a plan as I can come up with; one chance in hell. If we leave it to the Clipper braintrust we have no chance at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, we need to get incredibly lucky to make up for our overwhelming ineptitude. Win two lotteries in a row&#8230; That&#8217;s as good a plan as I can come up with; one chance in hell. If we leave it to the Clipper braintrust we have no chance at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank The Tank</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/18/year-six/comment-page-1/#comment-6150</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank The Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a weak spot at Backup PG and a starting SF. We also need help at G/F defending the perimeter. Al Thornton isn&#039;t multi-dimensional as Maggette is. We need Al as our sixth man and a true Small Forward.

Look at our 2006 Roster

PG: Sam Cassell/ Shaun Livingston
SG: Cuttino Mobley/ Quinton Ross
SF: Corey Maggette/ Vladmir Radmonovic
PF: Elton Brand/ Walter McCarty
SF: Chris Kaman/ Zejko Rebraca

Our 2009 Roster and Present

PG: Baron Davis/ Mike Taylor
SG: Eric Gordon/ Fred Jones
SF: Al Thornton/ Ricky Davis/ Mardy Collins
PF: Zach Randolph/ Marcus Camby
C: Chris Kaman/ DeAndre Jordan

I see a real need at Starting Small Forward Al Thornton isn&#039;t starting quality material he doesn&#039;t have what it takes to be a NBA Superstar like Kobe. Al Thorton is the least productive Starting Small Forward in the NBA but he&#039;s gettin better. Another need is backup point guard this is when we need to draft Rubio while we have a chance he&#039;s our future this prevents us in getting more point guards in saves us money for the long run. We do not need to draft no more big men our top priority is Blake Griffin or Rubio if we do not get them two we need Harden. We need to keep what we got and whip our team into shape with great conditioning to help us get ready for next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a weak spot at Backup PG and a starting SF. We also need help at G/F defending the perimeter. Al Thornton isn&#8217;t multi-dimensional as Maggette is. We need Al as our sixth man and a true Small Forward.</p>
<p>Look at our 2006 Roster</p>
<p>PG: Sam Cassell/ Shaun Livingston<br />
SG: Cuttino Mobley/ Quinton Ross<br />
SF: Corey Maggette/ Vladmir Radmonovic<br />
PF: Elton Brand/ Walter McCarty<br />
SF: Chris Kaman/ Zejko Rebraca</p>
<p>Our 2009 Roster and Present</p>
<p>PG: Baron Davis/ Mike Taylor<br />
SG: Eric Gordon/ Fred Jones<br />
SF: Al Thornton/ Ricky Davis/ Mardy Collins<br />
PF: Zach Randolph/ Marcus Camby<br />
C: Chris Kaman/ DeAndre Jordan</p>
<p>I see a real need at Starting Small Forward Al Thornton isn&#8217;t starting quality material he doesn&#8217;t have what it takes to be a NBA Superstar like Kobe. Al Thorton is the least productive Starting Small Forward in the NBA but he&#8217;s gettin better. Another need is backup point guard this is when we need to draft Rubio while we have a chance he&#8217;s our future this prevents us in getting more point guards in saves us money for the long run. We do not need to draft no more big men our top priority is Blake Griffin or Rubio if we do not get them two we need Harden. We need to keep what we got and whip our team into shape with great conditioning to help us get ready for next season.</p>
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