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		<title>By: Mattafact</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/20/season-ticket-renewals-and-the-marketplace/comment-page-1/#comment-6592</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattafact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tickets should be free until they fire every one responsible for bringing in Zach Randolph.

Check out &quot;Dumbleavy&quot; the fire Mike Dunleavy song!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tickets should be free until they fire every one responsible for bringing in Zach Randolph.</p>
<p>Check out &#8220;Dumbleavy&#8221; the fire Mike Dunleavy song!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipZEZcPNKdY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipZEZcPNKdY</a></p>
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		<title>By: eastie Rich</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/20/season-ticket-renewals-and-the-marketplace/comment-page-1/#comment-6499</link>
		<dc:creator>eastie Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is unintentionally hilarious.  The Clippers have to go to the end of of the earth to find a fan willing to pay full price for season tickets.  Or the &quot;Dark Side of the Moon&quot; if you will.

Don&#039;t misunderstand my comments, I have some good freinds from NZ and from all accounts it&#039;s a beautiful place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is unintentionally hilarious.  The Clippers have to go to the end of of the earth to find a fan willing to pay full price for season tickets.  Or the &#8220;Dark Side of the Moon&#8221; if you will.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t misunderstand my comments, I have some good freinds from NZ and from all accounts it&#8217;s a beautiful place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky Danger</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/20/season-ticket-renewals-and-the-marketplace/comment-page-1/#comment-6453</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d make this point in response to the original post:

I live in New Zealand, and alas, we only get two televised NBA games per week. Yes, it&#039;s like the Dark Ages here. We would never get a Clippers game televised. Be patient - I&#039;m going somewhere with this. I was planning to go live somewhere in the United States so I could frequent NBA games, and make my soon to be released basketball blog more relevant. The original idea was a tour of sorts to take in as many teams as possible. After reading Bill Simmons&#039; article &quot;The Dumbleavy Era&quot;, I was astounded to the point of changing said original idea. Now, I want to relocate to Los Angeles, and see Clipper game after Clipper game. I support the Suns, my favourite player is LeBron, but all I want is to see the Clippers now. 

I guess my point is that I am enticed by dysfunction and ineptitude, and I would pay whatever the Clippers asked for a season ticket. I must see them in person, I simply must. However, I understand that seasoned Clipper fans may have had enough punishment, and feel negotiating is warranted. However, if there are more like me who want &quot;in&quot;, then they may not be as malleable in terms of negotiation. Blame Simmons.

PS: And before someone points out that Phoenix are perhaps equally as dysfunctional, trust me, I know, and that reality is far, far too painful for me to see them at home. I would only cause an international incident by starting a fistfight with Steve Kerr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d make this point in response to the original post:</p>
<p>I live in New Zealand, and alas, we only get two televised NBA games per week. Yes, it&#8217;s like the Dark Ages here. We would never get a Clippers game televised. Be patient &#8211; I&#8217;m going somewhere with this. I was planning to go live somewhere in the United States so I could frequent NBA games, and make my soon to be released basketball blog more relevant. The original idea was a tour of sorts to take in as many teams as possible. After reading Bill Simmons&#8217; article &#8220;The Dumbleavy Era&#8221;, I was astounded to the point of changing said original idea. Now, I want to relocate to Los Angeles, and see Clipper game after Clipper game. I support the Suns, my favourite player is LeBron, but all I want is to see the Clippers now. </p>
<p>I guess my point is that I am enticed by dysfunction and ineptitude, and I would pay whatever the Clippers asked for a season ticket. I must see them in person, I simply must. However, I understand that seasoned Clipper fans may have had enough punishment, and feel negotiating is warranted. However, if there are more like me who want &#8220;in&#8221;, then they may not be as malleable in terms of negotiation. Blame Simmons.</p>
<p>PS: And before someone points out that Phoenix are perhaps equally as dysfunctional, trust me, I know, and that reality is far, far too painful for me to see them at home. I would only cause an international incident by starting a fistfight with Steve Kerr.</p>
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		<title>By: eastie Rich</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/04/20/season-ticket-renewals-and-the-marketplace/comment-page-1/#comment-6441</link>
		<dc:creator>eastie Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I finally got a call from my rep.  Still no renewal package though.  He asked what I thought about the state of the team and I listed the three things that bothered me most (Dunleavy came in second).

  Anyhow, after I get the package next week he&#039;s supposed to follow up, but from the initial conversation there aren&#039;t going to be any special deals offered (at least in my case - I wouldn&#039;t expect anything else).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I finally got a call from my rep.  Still no renewal package though.  He asked what I thought about the state of the team and I listed the three things that bothered me most (Dunleavy came in second).</p>
<p>  Anyhow, after I get the package next week he&#8217;s supposed to follow up, but from the initial conversation there aren&#8217;t going to be any special deals offered (at least in my case &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t expect anything else).</p>
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		<title>By: eastie Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>eastie Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I don&#039;t have a count, but going to the games this year it did look like attendance was way down from last year - actually about the lowest I&#039;ve ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I don&#8217;t have a count, but going to the games this year it did look like attendance was way down from last year &#8211; actually about the lowest I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelCage!</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelCage!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John R, what games did you go to?  Attendance is way down from last season, even with the huge discount in ticket prices and alot of ticket giveaways.  My rep confirmed as much to me, and a cursory glance around the stadium during most games will confirm that.

Don&#039;t be in denial; poor performance on the court and a very poor economy will affect attendance.  It doesn&#039;t take a genius to figure that out.  And yeah, the Inside Sales force and STH reps do care about retaining you because they&#039;re under pressure from their supervisors to retain the base after losing 40% last year.  Try not renewing and see how many calls and perks they offer you as the new season get closer.  We got moved down to essentially floor seats and given free parking passes all season.

Are you even a STH?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R, what games did you go to?  Attendance is way down from last season, even with the huge discount in ticket prices and alot of ticket giveaways.  My rep confirmed as much to me, and a cursory glance around the stadium during most games will confirm that.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be in denial; poor performance on the court and a very poor economy will affect attendance.  It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to figure that out.  And yeah, the Inside Sales force and STH reps do care about retaining you because they&#8217;re under pressure from their supervisors to retain the base after losing 40% last year.  Try not renewing and see how many calls and perks they offer you as the new season get closer.  We got moved down to essentially floor seats and given free parking passes all season.</p>
<p>Are you even a STH?</p>
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		<title>By: John R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s so much self-flattery and wishful thinking.

Do you look around when you go to a game?  Most of the folks there always seem to be there on the special deal of the night.  Attendance is barely off from last season.  Its certainly off less than the cost of a new coach and a new GM.

Look at the incentives they are offering to renew.  Do they indicate to you that they REALLY care about you?

We are all so self-important around here, aren&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so much self-flattery and wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Do you look around when you go to a game?  Most of the folks there always seem to be there on the special deal of the night.  Attendance is barely off from last season.  Its certainly off less than the cost of a new coach and a new GM.</p>
<p>Look at the incentives they are offering to renew.  Do they indicate to you that they REALLY care about you?</p>
<p>We are all so self-important around here, aren&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank The Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank The Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see him losin business next year because their tickets wont sell plus people don&#039;t like Dunleavy they want a new coach he&#039;ll soon realize this next season. If he is coach next year then the seats will be almost empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see him losin business next year because their tickets wont sell plus people don&#8217;t like Dunleavy they want a new coach he&#8217;ll soon realize this next season. If he is coach next year then the seats will be almost empty.</p>
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		<title>By: Long-suffering Clippers Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long-suffering Clippers Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things are clear: as long as DTS is making money on this franchise (and he is) there is no reason for him to change anything.  The team will probably be the same next year (barring draft picks and maybe a trade that doesn&#039;t cost him anything) and MDSr will be here throughout his contract (sorry MDSr haters).

Also, DTS has NEVER paid retail for ANYTHING, so STHs, keep negotiating down, and then negotiate some more... to the breaking point.  That&#039;s simply what he would do if he were buying something from you.

DTS will never make any moves until he starts losing money on the team, so do whatever you can to hit him in the wallet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things are clear: as long as DTS is making money on this franchise (and he is) there is no reason for him to change anything.  The team will probably be the same next year (barring draft picks and maybe a trade that doesn&#8217;t cost him anything) and MDSr will be here throughout his contract (sorry MDSr haters).</p>
<p>Also, DTS has NEVER paid retail for ANYTHING, so STHs, keep negotiating down, and then negotiate some more&#8230; to the breaking point.  That&#8217;s simply what he would do if he were buying something from you.</p>
<p>DTS will never make any moves until he starts losing money on the team, so do whatever you can to hit him in the wallet.</p>
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		<title>By: Long-suffering Clippers Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long-suffering Clippers Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you Eastie.  This team (it&#039;s effort or should I say lack thereof) has broken my heart and I don&#039;t want to go through another year of heartache, disgust and disappointment.  But I hate the Lakers.  What&#039;s a disgruntled Clipper fan to do?

I&#039;ve been of the fan of the Clippers since the Danny Manning-Benoit Benjamin-Ken Norman years (dammit that was 20 years ago!), was a STH for 4 of those years, and I can&#039;t (won&#039;t) go through another year of heartache like this one has been.

But what (if anything) will change? (see my post below)  I think I will miss Ralph and Mike the most of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Eastie.  This team (it&#8217;s effort or should I say lack thereof) has broken my heart and I don&#8217;t want to go through another year of heartache, disgust and disappointment.  But I hate the Lakers.  What&#8217;s a disgruntled Clipper fan to do?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been of the fan of the Clippers since the Danny Manning-Benoit Benjamin-Ken Norman years (dammit that was 20 years ago!), was a STH for 4 of those years, and I can&#8217;t (won&#8217;t) go through another year of heartache like this one has been.</p>
<p>But what (if anything) will change? (see my post below)  I think I will miss Ralph and Mike the most of all.</p>
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