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Gordon Finishes Fifth in ROY Voting

Posted by Kevin Arnovitz on April 22, 2009 at 3:55 pm

From the NBA official release:

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O.J. Mayo’s second place finish is my only strong objection to the tally. Mayo finished behind Eric Gordon in PER, Value Added, Estimated Wins Added, True Shooting Percentage, Assist Rate, Turover Rate.  Mayo had the edge in Rebounding Rate, points per minute, usage, and hype.

Like many awards, the criteria for Rookie of the Year is nebulous. Is the question, “Which rookie had the statistically best year?“  Or “Which member of the rookie class would you most like to build a team around?”  Or “Who was the best rookie on a relevant team?”

I tend to favor the first, which is why Brook Lopez would’ve been my choice.  My answer to questions two and three would’ve been Derrick Rose, whose skill set I love.

Ultimately, the award is meaningless, more so than the others because history will bear out which member of the 2008 Draft Class will emerge as the best pro.

20 Responses

  1. avatar Q.D. Said,

    This year’s ROY is difficult to choose. I think Rose is ROY, I do agree that Mayo as 2nd is inflated. However, Mayo, Rose and Westbrook were getting a lot of publicity from ESPN..So it was hard to forget the others in this draft class.

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    Posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm

  2. avatar Frank The Tank Said,

    I do agree Derrick Rose helped the Bulls make it to the postseason.

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    Posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm

  3. avatar Sebastian Pruiti Said,

    I am with you on the whole Brook Lopez for ROY, but I may be a little biased. I think the deciding factor in all of this was Rose took his team to the playoffs and Brook didn’t. I have no idea why or how O.J. Mayo came in second place.

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    Posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm

  4. avatar Sam Mays Said,

    I think it’s pretty clear that for the ROY award it’s something that is thought about early in the season, when there is a lot of excitement about which rookies will shine and which will bust. Minds are made up by the middle of November. The rookies who start the best will get the votes, unless they completely lose it in the second half.

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    Posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm

  5. avatar andrewexd Said,

    Ehh whatever. Did anyone seriously expect a clipper to win or come close to winning ROY ? Derrick Rose deserved it so that’s all that matter I guess..

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    Posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 5:49 pm

  6. avatar EricGordonsAnkleBrace Said,

    Greg Oden 0-2 on ROY chances.

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    Beard The Curse Reply:

    lol. this made me laugh

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    Posted on April 22nd, 2009 at 6:42 pm

  7. avatar gaiasale Said,

    I tend to favor the first, which is why Brook Lopez would’ve been my choice. My answer to questions two and three would’ve been Derrick Rose, whose skill set I love.

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 12:48 am

  8. avatar Kevin Said,

    My 5:

    1. Rose
    2. Lopez
    3. Love
    4. Gordon
    5. Westbrook

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 8:04 am

  9. avatar Cpt1021 Said,

    C’mon did everyone forget the 41 point performance, the defense on Kobe, the takeover against the knicks in LA…how about the game against Detroit where he almost won the game himself. He is a game changer. He makes Lopez look like a role player, westbrook inconsistent, and Mayo dole. Should have been either 1 or 2 in voting !!

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 am

  10. avatar Seth Said,

    I think someone voted for the wrong Lopez brother…how did Robin Lopez get a 2nd place vote? He hardly made any contributions!

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am

  11. avatar Q.D. Said,

    How does Robin get more votes than Courtney Lee???

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am

  12. avatar bongstradamus Said,

    I’m surprised Marc Gasol did so poorly. He played probably the most consistently of all the rookies and made a huge impact to a normally woeful Grizzlies squad. He stepped right in this season and played like a pro. I didnt expect him to win, but I figured his numbers would at least lead to more votes. I guess thats just further evidence of a strong rookie class that some of the best players are pretty much overlooked.

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

  13. avatar Gordon for President Said,

    On a side note, ESPN Rumor Central says “Pistons willing to part with Prince”. Last year, Dumars was interested in BD. Any chance we make a deal centered around Davis and Prince? Tayshaun is from Compton, and would fit in nicely starting at the 3. Though I’m not sure the Pistons would be willing take on the rest of Boom-Fizzle’s deal. If that were the case, why give up on Chauncey? Just rambling about the future, but exciting possibilites…

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    jockgroove Reply:

    I’d take Prince in a heartbeat, but they are going to want someone young for him. Maybe Thornton? Dumars isn’t that dumb…but live to dream right?

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    MC Reply:

    We’d be dumb to give up Al’s cheap contract and upside. I don’t want to see us trade any more young talent and watch them turn into all-stars somewhere else.

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    BoomDizzleisaCipp Reply:

    how about Al Thorton, Camby’s Expiring Deal for Tayshaun….i love Camby and all, but there is no chance he is going to stay with us after this year and he also a huge injury risk…this way we get our defensive minded SF that we’ve been looking for, and he has the added bonus of being able to spread the floor with spot up threes, plus he would fit a run and gun offense perfectly if we were to install one like our personnel suggests we should

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    Posted on April 23rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm

  14. avatar benwah_benyameen Said,

    I know I’m biased but other rookies complemented the players on their teams Eric Gordon was the best player on his team. How often does that happen?

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    Posted on April 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

  15. avatar Mattafact Said,

    Clippers always seem to get robbed when it comes to accolades. Thornton was left out of the rookie game last year I think and now Gordon finishes below Westbrook!?! Insane. Poor Gordon had to do it all for his squad this year.

    Check out “Dumbleavy” the Fire Mike Dunleavy song!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipZEZcPNKdY

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    Posted on April 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

  16. avatar Slax Said,

    I hear this all the time from fans of other teams and I would love to know which Clipper’s draft picks went on to be All-Stars somewhere else. Please enlighten me? We’ve sucked at drafting talent for the whole Elgin era. Lamar Odom is the most talented player the Clippers ever drafted that is still playing decent basketball. I really can’t think of one solitary case.

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    Posted on April 30th, 2009 at 8:59 am

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