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		<title>By: bongstradamus</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9363</link>
		<dc:creator>bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theres always the option of trading into a higher draft spot for 2010 too if we find we arent able to get the salary cap, or appeal we would need to sign a bonafide FA.  For some teams it might make sense to trade off first round draft picks for expiring contracts just to put them into the running for the FA market of 2010.  Dumping a pick and buying out a contract might be just enough to offer a deal to someone like Chris Bosh for some bubble teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theres always the option of trading into a higher draft spot for 2010 too if we find we arent able to get the salary cap, or appeal we would need to sign a bonafide FA.  For some teams it might make sense to trade off first round draft picks for expiring contracts just to put them into the running for the FA market of 2010.  Dumping a pick and buying out a contract might be just enough to offer a deal to someone like Chris Bosh for some bubble teams.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9288</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Pietrus is a bit over-hyped right now because he&#039;s playing Kobe in the finals.  He wasn&#039;t exactly a Team Guy in Golden State, and he&#039;s nearly as bad a passer as Thornton.  He&#039;s making a lot of threes in this series but they&#039;re the &quot;only good if he makes it&quot; kind of shots.  I&#039;ve we&#039;re going to give up Kaman and Thornton, we&#039;ve gotta get a whole hell of a lot more back than Pietrus and Gortat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Pietrus is a bit over-hyped right now because he&#8217;s playing Kobe in the finals.  He wasn&#8217;t exactly a Team Guy in Golden State, and he&#8217;s nearly as bad a passer as Thornton.  He&#8217;s making a lot of threes in this series but they&#8217;re the &#8220;only good if he makes it&#8221; kind of shots.  I&#8217;ve we&#8217;re going to give up Kaman and Thornton, we&#8217;ve gotta get a whole hell of a lot more back than Pietrus and Gortat.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris.</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9286</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cleveland completely denied the SLAM article and said they aren&#039;t interested.  Take it for what it&#039;s worth (the article was about them going after Rasheed Wallace and saying Randolph would be next if they couldn&#039;t get Sheed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleveland completely denied the SLAM article and said they aren&#8217;t interested.  Take it for what it&#8217;s worth (the article was about them going after Rasheed Wallace and saying Randolph would be next if they couldn&#8217;t get Sheed).</p>
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		<title>By: bootstrenf</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9278</link>
		<dc:creator>bootstrenf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about gortat and pietrus for thornton and kaman?

gortat is proving to be a very useful backup.....he always plays within his
own abilities and is a good defender to boot.....

he also has very good size.....camby and gortat would be a good combination
at the center position and we would still had deandre to replace camby when he
leaves.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about gortat and pietrus for thornton and kaman?</p>
<p>gortat is proving to be a very useful backup&#8230;..he always plays within his<br />
own abilities and is a good defender to boot&#8230;..</p>
<p>he also has very good size&#8230;..camby and gortat would be a good combination<br />
at the center position and we would still had deandre to replace camby when he<br />
leaves&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: bootstrenf</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9277</link>
		<dc:creator>bootstrenf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thornton and kaman for pietrus????


not saying pietrus is a bad player, but i think we could probably get a little more for thornton and laman....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thornton and kaman for pietrus????</p>
<p>not saying pietrus is a bad player, but i think we could probably get a little more for thornton and laman&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: chris.</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9255</link>
		<dc:creator>chris.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, meant if we did the Jefferson trade, next year if we do no trades we will have at least 11.5 million expiring contracts for Camby, R. Davis and B. Skinner (assuming Davis and Skinner take their contracts).  More if we don&#039;t pick up Thorton&#039;s option (we will) and Collins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, meant if we did the Jefferson trade, next year if we do no trades we will have at least 11.5 million expiring contracts for Camby, R. Davis and B. Skinner (assuming Davis and Skinner take their contracts).  More if we don&#8217;t pick up Thorton&#8217;s option (we will) and Collins.</p>
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		<title>By: chris.</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9254</link>
		<dc:creator>chris.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next season we&#039;d have no space to sign FA&#039;s except the obvious draft pick we will get, but next summer Randolph will be easier to move as an expiring contract (hopefully) and R. Jefferson would also be in the final year of his contract if he doesn&#039;t work out for the coming season.  Not the greatest contract summer in 2010 for us, but doub we are playing for the 2010 free agent market, why not try for 2011.  If the team is bad again next year which with Dunleavy as coach it may be, then we&#039;d have a new coach but 2 massive expring contracts two work with in 2010 for the 2011 season.  I dunno, I know Milwaukee wants to get expirings and it works under the salary cap rules.  T. Prince is better and a hometown boy, but Detroit doesn&#039;t seem to be shopping him since they already have so much free cap space this summer to go after Boozer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next season we&#8217;d have no space to sign FA&#8217;s except the obvious draft pick we will get, but next summer Randolph will be easier to move as an expiring contract (hopefully) and R. Jefferson would also be in the final year of his contract if he doesn&#8217;t work out for the coming season.  Not the greatest contract summer in 2010 for us, but doub we are playing for the 2010 free agent market, why not try for 2011.  If the team is bad again next year which with Dunleavy as coach it may be, then we&#8217;d have a new coach but 2 massive expring contracts two work with in 2010 for the 2011 season.  I dunno, I know Milwaukee wants to get expirings and it works under the salary cap rules.  T. Prince is better and a hometown boy, but Detroit doesn&#8217;t seem to be shopping him since they already have so much free cap space this summer to go after Boozer.</p>
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		<title>By: TNT57</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/10/clipperblogger-summit-part-four/comment-page-1/#comment-9249</link>
		<dc:creator>TNT57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How old is R. Jefferson, like 32?  SLAM reported trade rumors about Zach going to Cleveland.  But for who?  Mo Williams?  Gibson and West?  I promise you Kaman has not been working out and reports out of shape.  It has happened EVERY season.  What about Mike Bibby?  Trade Baron for him.  God I hate this team.  Is there any way to trade the whole team for another whole team?  Like OKC.  Or the BOBCATS.  And I saw Blake Griffin interviewed on Jim Rome&#039;s tv show today.  Wow, is this a ball of energy.  I thought he was going to nod of in mid sentence.  He brushed off his horrible workout by saying,  &quot;I don&#039;t think the team is gonna ask me to hit shots from half court.&quot;  No, but how about a few FROM TEN FRICKIN&#039; FEET?!!  I have a sick feeling this guy is gonna be a stiff.  Like he&#039;s going to average 8 pts per the first season.  I also hear there&#039;s a ton of great season tickets available this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How old is R. Jefferson, like 32?  SLAM reported trade rumors about Zach going to Cleveland.  But for who?  Mo Williams?  Gibson and West?  I promise you Kaman has not been working out and reports out of shape.  It has happened EVERY season.  What about Mike Bibby?  Trade Baron for him.  God I hate this team.  Is there any way to trade the whole team for another whole team?  Like OKC.  Or the BOBCATS.  And I saw Blake Griffin interviewed on Jim Rome&#8217;s tv show today.  Wow, is this a ball of energy.  I thought he was going to nod of in mid sentence.  He brushed off his horrible workout by saying,  &#8220;I don&#8217;t think the team is gonna ask me to hit shots from half court.&#8221;  No, but how about a few FROM TEN FRICKIN&#8217; FEET?!!  I have a sick feeling this guy is gonna be a stiff.  Like he&#8217;s going to average 8 pts per the first season.  I also hear there&#8217;s a ton of great season tickets available this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Clipper Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clipper Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooo.... The Camby/Davis/Skinner for Richard Jefferson gave me goosebumps.  I&#039;d love to have Jefferson, but how would that effect our cap space for next off season?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooo&#8230;. The Camby/Davis/Skinner for Richard Jefferson gave me goosebumps.  I&#8217;d love to have Jefferson, but how would that effect our cap space for next off season?</p>
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		<title>By: Clipper Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clipper Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t want Josh Howard either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want Josh Howard either.</p>
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