Comments on: Hedgehogs, Foxes, and Clippers http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/ Dissecting the Side-Screen Roll Since 2006 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: eastie Rich http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10411 eastie Rich Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:16:45 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10411 And I'll be watching from home for the first time in years. And I’ll be watching from home for the first time in years.

]]> By: eastie Rich http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10410 eastie Rich Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:14:44 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10410 Good owners beget good teams. Examples, Kraft and the Patriots, Buss and the Lakers, Henry (maj. owner) and the Red Sox. I could go on in the opposite way, Dolans (is that right) and the Knicks, Sterling and the Clippers, who is it that owns the Lions? Pretty simple really. Anyone who works for a living can attest that shi* flows downhill. Good owners beget good teams. Examples, Kraft and the Patriots, Buss and the Lakers, Henry (maj. owner) and the Red Sox. I could go on in the opposite way, Dolans (is that right) and the Knicks, Sterling and the Clippers, who is it that owns the Lions?

Pretty simple really. Anyone who works for a living can attest that shi* flows downhill.

]]> By: Clipper Speakeasy http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10384 Clipper Speakeasy Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:40:18 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10384 Unfortunately, this dream will never come true. Morey, the Rockets GM, knows the value of Battier better than anyone and Kaman for Battier/Barry will never cut it. Read this for insight into how Morey values Battier: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?pagewanted=all Unfortunately, this dream will never come true. Morey, the Rockets GM, knows the value of Battier better than anyone and Kaman for Battier/Barry will never cut it. Read this for insight into how Morey values Battier:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?pagewanted=all

]]> By: Daniel http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10382 Daniel Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:10:47 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10382 He's also a full year older than Lebron. He's not going to get much better. He’s also a full year older than Lebron. He’s not going to get much better.

]]> By: TNT57 http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10371 TNT57 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:49:13 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10371 How about Grumpy, Sleepy, Bashful, Doc and Dopey...I mean Kaman? Same thing. I think getting Battier is a fairy tale. I watched NBA channel and they all said Dunleavy is infatuated with Randolph's offense and still thinks Kaman is one of the 5 best big men in the league. Where's that poison apple when you need it? How about Grumpy, Sleepy, Bashful, Doc and Dopey…I mean Kaman? Same thing. I think getting Battier is a fairy tale. I watched NBA channel and they all said Dunleavy is infatuated with Randolph’s offense and still thinks Kaman is one of the 5 best big men in the league. Where’s that poison apple when you need it?

]]> By: Chris http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10369 Chris Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:51:46 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10369 I'd love that trade and roster, except I think this year Zach would be the starter at power forward. A 3-4-5 of Shane, Griffin, and Camby is not potent enough offensively. Zach would be our post guy who opens it up for shooters. Griffin could come off the bench with Taylor, Novak, Thornton and DJ and absolutely run teams out of the gym. But yeah overall the lineup is deadly. Baron Gordon Shane Zach Marcus I’d love that trade and roster, except I think this year Zach would be the starter at power forward. A 3-4-5 of Shane, Griffin, and Camby is not potent enough offensively. Zach would be our post guy who opens it up for shooters. Griffin could come off the bench with Taylor, Novak, Thornton and DJ and absolutely run teams out of the gym.

But yeah overall the lineup is deadly.

Baron
Gordon
Shane
Zach
Marcus

]]> By: J'Rock http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10364 J'Rock Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:58:11 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10364 I'm not too sure how factual it is that the Rockets want to give up Battier. If there is any truth to it, it is highly possible after reading that YAO is going to sit out all of next season and possibly longer with a jacked up foot. In this case, Houston needs a versatile big man to power the low post offense they built around Yao. We can compile and sell Kaman's ambidextrous highlight footage from 07'. In an ideal world, the trad would be: B.Barry + S.Battier for C.Kaman. This would be perfect (salary wise) for both teams(http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine). We would get an ex clip/ ex champ/ consistent combo guard in Barry and the hard nosed/ defensive minded/ team leader 3 we need to compliment Camby. Imagine... 1. B Diddy (in better shape) 2. E.Gordon (another year older) 3. S.Battier (DEFENSE) 4. B.Griffin (statement year) 5. M.Camby (DEFENSE) Bench Randolph Novak Taylor Jordan Swagger, strength, defense, and youth. The 2010 Clippers can be it. Even Dr. Martin Luther King had a dream... I’m not too sure how factual it is that the Rockets want to give up Battier. If there is any truth to it, it is highly possible after reading that YAO is going to sit out all of next season and possibly longer with a jacked up foot. In this case, Houston needs a versatile big man to power the low post offense they built around Yao. We can compile and sell Kaman’s ambidextrous highlight footage from 07′. In an ideal world, the trad would be: B.Barry + S.Battier for C.Kaman. This would be perfect (salary wise) for both teams(http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine). We would get an ex clip/ ex champ/ consistent combo guard in Barry and the hard nosed/ defensive minded/ team leader 3 we need to compliment Camby. Imagine…
1. B Diddy (in better shape)
2. E.Gordon (another year older)
3. S.Battier (DEFENSE)
4. B.Griffin (statement year)
5. M.Camby (DEFENSE)

Bench
Randolph
Novak
Taylor
Jordan

Swagger, strength, defense, and youth. The 2010 Clippers can be it.

Even Dr. Martin Luther King had a dream…

]]> By: TheHighPosts http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10363 TheHighPosts Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:50:22 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10363 While watching the draft it was interesting to see how the commentators talked about what a [any] player does well, doesn't do well and what they bring to the team... which is all well and good, but is only part of the picture. The Clipper have players, but the essential ingredients of a team, even better, and organization are severely lacking: - Coaching- Dumb-leavy, 'nuff said. - Organization- Who is running this thing? Rosener? Dumb-leavy? The players? - Fans- You know you are a Clips fan when... You know where you were when Livingston went down, or when Brand jumped ship, or when Manning went down or... you get the picture. You are a Clips fan when you are a fan in spite of knowing the being a Clips fan is like loving a wayward son or daughter; you keep hoping for something to come through, but know in your heart of hearts that it just isn't in them. - Players- Talented, sure. Motivated, questionable. Like-able, barely. - System- What system do the Clips run??? We haven't had a plan since Sammy was here?!?! - Ownership- uggghhh. The talk of foxes and hedgehogs in nice but limited. I'm waiting for next year where I might be able to stomach watching a full game, where the talent and the organization gets on the same page and expectations are met. Until then, I will continue to hope my Clips go to rehab. While watching the draft it was interesting to see how the commentators talked about what a [any] player does well, doesn’t do well and what they bring to the team… which is all well and good, but is only part of the picture.

The Clipper have players, but the essential ingredients of a team, even better, and organization are severely lacking:

- Coaching- Dumb-leavy, ’nuff said.
- Organization- Who is running this thing? Rosener? Dumb-leavy? The players?
- Fans- You know you are a Clips fan when… You know where you were when Livingston went down, or when Brand jumped ship, or when Manning went down or… you get the picture. You are a Clips fan when you are a fan in spite of knowing the being a Clips fan is like loving a wayward son or daughter; you keep hoping for something to come through, but know in your heart of hearts that it just isn’t in them.
- Players- Talented, sure. Motivated, questionable. Like-able, barely.
- System- What system do the Clips run??? We haven’t had a plan since Sammy was here?!?!
- Ownership- uggghhh.

The talk of foxes and hedgehogs in nice but limited.

I’m waiting for next year where I might be able to stomach watching a full game, where the talent and the organization gets on the same page and expectations are met.

Until then, I will continue to hope my Clips go to rehab.

]]> By: TNT57 http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10357 TNT57 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:31:01 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10357 EFFECT, sorry. EFFECT, sorry.

]]> By: TNT57 http://clipperblog.com/2009/06/28/hedgehogs-foxes-and-clippers/comment-page-1/#comment-10356 TNT57 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:30:33 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=619#comment-10356 He has absolutely nothing to do with their 'performance'? Tell me how an old man sitting courtside has any eggect on the team? Al Thorton wasn't even sure who he was when he started yelling at him last year. I don't get your logic. He has absolutely nothing to do with their ‘performance’? Tell me how an old man sitting courtside has any eggect on the team? Al Thorton wasn’t even sure who he was when he started yelling at him last year. I don’t get your logic.

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