From the Memphis Commercial Appeal:
Although neither team has reneged, an agreed-upon trade between Memphis and the Los Angeles Clippers that would put power forward Zach Randolph in a Grizzlies uniform wasn’t made official Wednesday for several reasons ranging from accounting to player physicals…
It could take up to five more days before the Randolph-for-Richardson swap is announced, mainly because the Griz are looking to consummate another trade scenario first.
As the NBA lifted a moratorium on transactions Wednesday, Memphis was among a few teams considering a three-way deal with Dallas and Toronto.
The Mavericks are trying to pry Shawn Marion from the Raptors in a sign-and-trade agreement and are soliciting the Grizzlies as a facilitator. It is believed that the Griz would receive veteran guard Jerry Stackhouse and cash considerations in the deal.
Stackhouse has $2 million guaranteed on a $7 million contract for next season.
Any potential Memphis-Dallas-Toronto deal would not affect the Grizzlies’ agreement with the Clippers.
In short, Quentin Richardson makes $8.7M, while Zach Randolph makes $16M. If the Clips-Grizz trade were to be consummated before the Marion/Stackhouse carnival deal, Memphis wouldn’t have enough cap room to accept Stack’s $7.25M salary. But once the Grizzlies complete the four-way deal and waive Stackhouse, they’ll be sufficiently below the cap to accept the $7.3M difference in salary between Messers. Randolph and Richardson.
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I do. There is a rumored sign a trade deal that would send Marvin Williams to the Clippers for Marcus Camby. This sounds too good to be true. What do you guys think?
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Hooch20 Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I would do this as well.
Where is this rumor coming from though?
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John Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I haven’t watched Williams play much…I just read a year-old hollinger breakdown of his game (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=2797&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fplayers%2fhollinger%3fplayerId%3d2797) here. Seems like a guy that is above-average at most things except for passing, and not exceptional at anything with the possible exception of mid-range shooting. Although most of his stats didn’t improve much in 08/09, his PER improved significantly, and he’s still young. I’m not sure which way to lean.
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RL Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Camby for Marvin Williams? No thanks. Kid got potential, but Camby’s trade value increases with each passing day. He would make the perfect mentor to both Griffin and Jordan. Besides, we all know that Kaman is going to miss at least 1/3 of the season, and not show up for another 1/3. To make a long story short: Camby is VERY valuable to the team.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Sign me up for that trade. I would love that. Lets us move AL to the bench and we get a guy who isnt the best SF, but has the skills to be the perfect role player with our starting line up.
PLus, good value for camby.
LInk to the source?
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
As much as I would like to have Marvin Williams, there goes our front court depth. Is there a talented, or at least decent, big we can get to back up Kaman and Blake?
And nobody say Brian Skinner!
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Drew Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Maybe sign Leon Powe?
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Gordon for President Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
No kidding. That’s exactly who I had in mind. Yeah, he has knee issues, but I still think Ainge was a fool to let him go. With healthy knees, he’s 20/10 waiting to happen. He probably never get there, but in a back-up role with expanded minutes compared to BOS, I think he’d do great.
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pel Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
mabe we can get a cheap veteran like brian skinner
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
As long as the ZBO trade happens, that’s all I care about. He can’t be on this team by training camp.
I’d like to keep Camby around, but Marvin Williams would be a very nice fit.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Kaman for Josh Smith. Make it happen Dunleavy.
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bongstradamus Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:08 am
The window to trade Kaman closed, apparently nobody has interest in him anymore. We should have moved him last year when he still had value. Let’s hope he comes to camp focused and ready to go because it looks like he’s here for the immediate future.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
We need that solid front court intact. We would be weakening the front court to add a average player on the wing. We would end up being average in both positions, besides Blake Griffin has not proven himself yet. We need some insurance in the front court.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Dude, I found the source! It’s from a Atlanta Hawks fan proposing a trade scenario on a blog. I guess they need front court depth and is fantasizing about getting Camby or Kaman. His logic for the Clippers going for the trade is Cap relief and playing time for Griffin. Baseless!
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mandru Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Lol. Love how everyone tried to justify that horrible trade rumor…
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
In another development, the Grizzlies renounced their rights to free agent Darius Miles. We could get him for cheap and still keep Camby for a better deal down the future.
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Chris. Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I heard DMiles got busted for smoking pot again or something?
I want to keep Camby, best mentor possible for Griffin and Jordan.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Whats the wait with going after Singleton? He’s the best free agent out there
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
…For the price that is.
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Clipper Speakeasy Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Singleton isn’t coming back. He and Dunleavy did not part as buddies.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
With the Randolph trade we will then have the cap room for the 2010 class. Call me crazy but maybe the Clipps are in play for KingJames. If Donald threw over 100 mill for Kobe why not Lebron. Just imagine the team…BDavis, Gordon, Lebron, Griffin and Kaman…with Al, Jordan and Taylor coming off the bench. Lebron coming to LA to take Kobe town!! Do it Donald!!!!
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
It depends on how well Dunleavy coaches this season. If he fucks up like last season, theres no chance that anyone will want to play for the Clips. If the team stays healthy and the new fast break offense is rolling I don’t see any reason why free agents wouldn’t want to come to the Clips. A good rotation of players is necessary for this though. Can’t play players for the whole game and run them into the court…thats a big reason why so many players were getting injured. Oh yeah and get a new team trainer…I’ll go ape shit if Griffin busts a knee!!!
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clippman Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:42 am
i second the new trainer. we have the most injuries every year. can’t we get one of the suns asst trainers. it sure seems like they did alot for shaq.
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bongstradamus Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Alot of that is team morale. Ever call in sick to work? I think that happens much more on the Clippers than say, the Celtics.
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Posted on July 9th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
yes to a new trainer. we have to have on of the worst in the league!!!
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 8:42 am
The clips should look into taking flyers on the following:
Digou, Warrick, Wilcox, and Marquis Daniels. Also, cj watson and anthony carter could be serviceable in the backcourt. What do you guys think?
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Well I signed up for the Internet Summer League pass. I really hope the quality will be better this year.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Can we please cancel the Randolph for QRich trade?? It does nothing. We are rebuilding! I propose these few trades ASAP if possible and if any1 can get the idea to Sterling maybe we’ll have an exciting team to watch AND WINS!
Bulls Get: Randolph + 2nd Rd Pick
We Get: Henirich + Tyrus Thomas
Reasoning: Randolph is what the Bulls need. A PF that can score and spread the floor for Derrick Rose to drive the ball. We need Heinrich because hes an unselfish player who can score when he needs to. Also he plays DEFENSE! Tyrus is definitely been imnproving and his potential is enormous as a 6th man.
Grizzlies Get: Baron Davis + Al Thornton
We Get: Rudy Gay + Marco Jaric
Reasoning: Baron Davis will be an instant need for the Grizzlies and Al would provide a solid replacement for Rudy Gay. We improve because Gay is more explosive and Al doesn’t want to play for our team. Neither does Baron.
Now our team would look like:
Heinrich
Gordon
Gay
Griffin
Kaman
BN: Camby, Ty Thomas, Taylor, RDavis
If that doesnt help us win 45 games this coming year, we are building for the future. Gordon Gay Griffin and Thomas are all under 23 yrs old!!
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John Reply:
July 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
lol well put. Why settle on Rudy Gay for BD and Thornton? We should trade Thornton for only Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, or 2003 Tim Duncan.
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SamMays Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Nobody wants Z-bo… We’re lucky to find a sucker with Memphis. Let’s not blow this, because if he backs out, we’re stuck with him… Paying 33 million to a guy who doesn’t play defense, doesn’t set picks and doesn’t pass…
There’s a reason why only sorry, desperate franchises have taken a chance on him… Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago and several other teams could use a scoring PF… None have the least bit of inerest in Z-bo… There’s no way you get a good player like Hinrich for a loser like Zach.
He’s been traded three times now in the last two years for nothing more than future cap relief… Tells you what he’s worth, which is not much.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I think this team is better than the current because Baron is on his way down.. hes still sick but he’s not the rght type of player for this team.
The team I feel would be better also cuz those players are defensive minded as well as offensively stable.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Stackhouse was just waived. Hopefully, the Randolph deal goes through.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Enough with rebuilding, we need consistency. Bring BD back. He wasn’t the problem, Dunleavy’s unrelenting coaching style was. Now that he’s given up Z-Bo, that should be a clear indication he really is willing to run this year. I say we stand pat with what he have, including Z-Bo for Q-Rich, and see what we can do.
The only move I want to see now is shipping Ricky Buckets out of town, I’d take a bag of popcorn for him. He has talent, except for last year, but dude is like Juwan Howard, just a cursed player for whatever reason.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I concur with that notion.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I like the Randolph trade. It free’s up a crap load of cap space. We would really be in the mix for the talent of 2010…..And I like our roster already. Baron is going to come back strong, and I also believe Kaman will also. Blake is an animal!He WILL make Kaman better the way Brand did. Thornton,Griffen, and Kaman will be the starting front court for a few years! Very Nice…
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
They finally got the NBA summer league games streaming. The quality is better than last year. It’s not great quality, just a little better.
I’m watching the Raptors now and Paul Davis is playing with them.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
nice to read in one of the vegas wraps on hoopshype that Livingston is playing well.
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Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
[...] That being said, the Z-Bo trade has yet to go through, which makes me nervous even if other people ain’t (a possible reason for the trade delay is explained here). [...]
Posted on July 10th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Looks like Houston are looking for a center via trade. Kaman or Camby + Ricky Davis for Shane Battier, What do you guys think?
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Chris. Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
First Houston would need to add another player to make the salaries work for either Kaman or Camby. The problem with trading either is it would leave a big whole at the Center position or PF position. I don’t think Jordan is ready to be a starter and if he is the only option behind injury ridden Kaman or elder Camby, then he would be. It is a gamble though because Battier seems to be the perfect fit for our team at SF.
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RL Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:15 am
We’re giving up alot for Battier. I like him.. but I don’t think he’s that good.
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Clipper Speakeasy Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Also pass. The trade exception the Clips get in the Z-Bo trade allows them to hold the current frontcourt depth and pick up a player from a salary shedding team. Don’t need to trade Kaman or Camby now, and trading Camby — not Kaman — is the only move that seems sensical now.
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Posted on July 11th, 2009 at 10:33 am
If I were in charge, I would try to send the Rockets Chris Kaman and Ricky Davis for Shane Battier, Chuck Hayes, and Brian Cook.
Thoughts for both sides?
As for the Clippers, they would still need to find a decent backup PG and C in the free agent market, but that would give them a nice 15-man roster.
Davis/FA/Taylor
Gordon/Collins/Richardson
Battier/Thornton/Novak
Griffin/Hayes/Cook
Camby/FA/Jordan
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Ian Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
This is the only fucking reasonable trade scenario i’ve seen here in days. How can these fools forget that we were happy about the Randolph trade bc it gave us 2010 cap flexibility (as Camby is one of our expiring contracts). IT’S BARELY BEEN A WEEK YOU DOPES! Camby is staying — he’s an expiring contract! No more stupid Camby trade rumors!
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Posted on July 11th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Practice footage:
http://cbs2.com/video/?id=108368
Blake doesn’t do much. Runs the floor pretty well and has a nice dunk off an alley oop from MT at the 7:04 mark.
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Posted on July 12th, 2009 at 8:52 am
The Kaman/Davis trade for Hayes/Cook/Battier… Would work out very well.
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Posted on July 13th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
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