Comments on: Answer Me Not http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/ Dissecting the Side-Screen Roll Since 2006 Wed, 23 May 2012 01:18:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Clips & Bits 7/21/09 | Fully Clips | A LA Clippers Blog http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11968 Clips & Bits 7/21/09 | Fully Clips | A LA Clippers Blog Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:16:38 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11968 [...] -Kevin Arnovitz talks about how impressive Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon look when they burst onto th...: Last night’s showcase of Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon at the Thomas & Mack Center should have been the halcyon moment in the Clippers’ rebirth as a franchise. With the Clippers’ brass beaming on the sideline, the team’s featured 20-year-old offensive stars ran a clinic, establishing themselves as one of the league’s most potent big-small duos. [...] [...] -Kevin Arnovitz talks about how impressive Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon look when they burst onto th…: Last night’s showcase of Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon at the Thomas & Mack Center should have been the halcyon moment in the Clippers’ rebirth as a franchise. With the Clippers’ brass beaming on the sideline, the team’s featured 20-year-old offensive stars ran a clinic, establishing themselves as one of the league’s most potent big-small duos. [...]

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]]> By: John http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11591 John Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:58:06 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11591 A couple of responses: Iverson does indeed show heart when he plays, putting his body on the line before every play. He is also, however, notorious for skipping practices & having a bad attitude. This is not the kind of example we need our vets to be setting. Just when things seem to be going well (The quote I read yesterday about how DJ was drinking an egg-white shake with BG, and (was it olshey?) says "I've never seen him eat anything but McDonalds before".) This is the kind of turn around we need to see! Suddenly DJ has a positive influence, and he's changing things about himself to become a better ball player. In that long Chauncey article that was on ESPN a few months back (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=090511/billups if you haven't read it...terrific article) they were talking about how when Iverson was leading the team, he would go out and party till 4AM with JR and Melo, because the young guys really looked up to him. Then Chauncey shows up, has a positive affect on the young guys (No more partying late, eating bad, acting unprofessionally) and the team gets much better. I'm not just judging Iverson on his performance with Detroit, but with Denver as well. The Denver teams he was a part of were STACKED with talent, yet always underperformed--especially in the playoffs. Swap Iverson out for Chauncey, and you've got a serious contender. Is Chauncey as talented as Iverson? Not even close. Is he a better leader and a better winner? Iverson isn't even in the conversation. Obviously Chauncey is a special guy, but we saw the same effect on the team when Cassell joined us. Iverson might be right for a certain team (Charolette?) but he would be a cancer for the Clips. A couple of responses:

Iverson does indeed show heart when he plays, putting his body on the line before every play.

He is also, however, notorious for skipping practices & having a bad attitude. This is not the kind of example we need our vets to be setting. Just when things seem to be going well (The quote I read yesterday about how DJ was drinking an egg-white shake with BG, and (was it olshey?) says “I’ve never seen him eat anything but McDonalds before”.) This is the kind of turn around we need to see! Suddenly DJ has a positive influence, and he’s changing things about himself to become a better ball player.

In that long Chauncey article that was on ESPN a few months back (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=090511/billups if you haven’t read it…terrific article) they were talking about how when Iverson was leading the team, he would go out and party till 4AM with JR and Melo, because the young guys really looked up to him. Then Chauncey shows up, has a positive affect on the young guys (No more partying late, eating bad, acting unprofessionally) and the team gets much better.

I’m not just judging Iverson on his performance with Detroit, but with Denver as well. The Denver teams he was a part of were STACKED with talent, yet always underperformed–especially in the playoffs. Swap Iverson out for Chauncey, and you’ve got a serious contender. Is Chauncey as talented as Iverson? Not even close. Is he a better leader and a better winner? Iverson isn’t even in the conversation.

Obviously Chauncey is a special guy, but we saw the same effect on the team when Cassell joined us. Iverson might be right for a certain team (Charolette?) but he would be a cancer for the Clips.

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]]> By: Lance Osborn (Guam U.S.A.) http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11588 Lance Osborn (Guam U.S.A.) Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:42:12 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11588 I told many people about the Shaq to the Cavs deal, If you can give me a player who can get you close to 20-10(17-8) with some blocks and assist while shooting 60% i would take that deal any day. Not to mention an enormous post presence. Now this goes with Allen Iverson as well, If can can offer or give me a player who averages 27-6 for his career and didn't tell me that he is ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC AND DYNAMIC SCORERS/PLAYMAKERS OF ALL TIME...I still would take the deal. Also not mentioned is something that doesn't appear in the stat sheet since everybody is all of a sudden is concerned about is HEART, DETERMINATION AND THE NEVER SAY DIE ATTITUDE. I can Guarantee that not one player has the will or is even as close to being strong willed as Iverson. "Could of easily came in here and saw Shaquille O'Neal and folded...like alot of teams do." -Allen Iverson 2001 (41 points + the W in LA) That quote speaks a lot about the player that he is. Regardless of Shaq in his prime and Kobe hitting his peak that year he single handily carried his team to W's and all the way to the finals. The Lakers pursuit of perfection was put on hold thanks to the "LITTLE TANK THAT COULD." Tyrone Hill, Matt Gieger, Eric Snow, George Lynch, Rookie* Raja Bell, Aaoron McKie, Mutoumbo and Big MAC Todd McColough. c'mon now...please name another player @ that time or even this time that can march a team like tht to the finals. "Kobe got three rings with his best player being the Most Dominant Player in the league, Allen Iverson made it to the finals with his second best player being Aaron Mckie." -Tim Legler ESPN People, Don't judge Iverson by his stint in Detroit he had an AWFUL COACH! WHO WAS FIRED AFTER THE SEASON. For not knowing how to use his personnel esp. One of the most Dynamic scorers of all time. Last note, Allen Iverson when in the lane creates easy buckets for his bigs or shooters when the D collapses on him. F-Kyler Korver had his best shooting and scoring season while playing with Iverson, some one mentioned F-Marc Jackson scored more playing with Iverson than he did playing with MR. Dime (Jason Kidd), Samuel Dalembert Got his giant contract thatnks to Iverson...his career high in scoring came while playing with Iverson. Chris Paul is second to Allen Iverson in career 40-10+ games. This player will show This young team how to play with passion and that never say die attitude no matter what. I told many people about the Shaq to the Cavs deal, If you can give me a player who can get you close to 20-10(17-8) with some blocks and assist while shooting 60% i would take that deal any day. Not to mention an enormous post presence.

Now this goes with Allen Iverson as well, If can can offer or give me a player who averages 27-6 for his career and didn’t tell me that he is ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC AND DYNAMIC SCORERS/PLAYMAKERS OF ALL TIME…I still would take the deal. Also not mentioned is something that doesn’t appear in the stat sheet since everybody is all of a sudden is concerned about is HEART, DETERMINATION AND THE NEVER SAY DIE ATTITUDE. I can Guarantee that not one player has the will or is even as close to being strong willed as Iverson.

“Could of easily came in here and saw Shaquille O’Neal and folded…like alot of teams do.” -Allen Iverson 2001 (41 points + the W in LA)

That quote speaks a lot about the player that he is. Regardless of Shaq in his prime and Kobe hitting his peak that year he single handily carried his team to W’s and all the way to the finals. The Lakers pursuit of perfection was put on hold thanks to the “LITTLE TANK THAT COULD.”

Tyrone Hill, Matt Gieger, Eric Snow, George Lynch, Rookie* Raja Bell, Aaoron McKie, Mutoumbo and Big MAC Todd McColough. c’mon now…please name another player @ that time or even this time that can march a team like tht to the finals.

“Kobe got three rings with his best player being the Most Dominant Player in the league, Allen Iverson made it to the finals with his second best player being Aaron Mckie.” -Tim Legler ESPN

People, Don’t judge Iverson by his stint in Detroit he had an AWFUL COACH! WHO WAS FIRED AFTER THE SEASON. For not knowing how to use his personnel esp. One of the most Dynamic scorers of all time.

Last note, Allen Iverson when in the lane creates easy buckets for his bigs or shooters when the D collapses on him. F-Kyler Korver had his best shooting and scoring season while playing with Iverson, some one mentioned F-Marc Jackson scored more playing with Iverson than he did playing with MR. Dime (Jason Kidd), Samuel Dalembert Got his giant contract thatnks to Iverson…his career high in scoring came while playing with Iverson.

Chris Paul is second to Allen Iverson in career 40-10+ games.
This player will show This young team how to play with passion and that never say die attitude no matter what.

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]]> By: bongstradamus http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11569 bongstradamus Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:58:39 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11569 The issue is that when AI was an MVP and All Star he demanded the ball an shot like 40 times a game. It was well known that the Sixers kept making trades to bring in other stars to co-exist with Iverson and it never worked. Thats why he got traded to Denver, and that experiment, while marginally successful, was also a failure in producing a championship. He says he wants to be a starter. Which makes most people think he wants to go back to chucking 30+ shots instead of finding ways to distribute the ball. The reason we're against it is because we want those shots going to Blake and Eric and have the Clippers be a TEAM, and not AI and his four sidekicks. The issue is that when AI was an MVP and All Star he demanded the ball an shot like 40 times a game. It was well known that the Sixers kept making trades to bring in other stars to co-exist with Iverson and it never worked. Thats why he got traded to Denver, and that experiment, while marginally successful, was also a failure in producing a championship.

He says he wants to be a starter. Which makes most people think he wants to go back to chucking 30+ shots instead of finding ways to distribute the ball. The reason we’re against it is because we want those shots going to Blake and Eric and have the Clippers be a TEAM, and not AI and his four sidekicks.

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]]> By: Javy G. http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11564 Javy G. Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:39:13 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11564 Bring on AI why not its just a one year experiment if anything he helps us more than he affects us and this whole young an up and coming team thing is getting annoying dont you guys remember OLOWAKANDI, ODOM, RICHARDSON, MILES, DOOLING these guys were up and coming looked awesome looked magnificent and what did they accomplish with the clips?? A couple of memorable moments and thats it. Nothing else. We cant fully rely on just young guys that are up and coming we need guys that know what its like to be at the top hence AI is a former MVP and has more All-Star appearences than our whole team in the past 15 years we need AI. Ramon Sessions?? Get real hes another Bobby Simmons a guy who puts together a solid year on a bad team in his contract year and will get a deal that will be horrible two months into the season. Bring on AI why not its just a one year experiment if anything he helps us more than he affects us and this whole young an up and coming team thing is getting annoying dont you guys remember OLOWAKANDI, ODOM, RICHARDSON, MILES, DOOLING these guys were up and coming looked awesome looked magnificent and what did they accomplish with the clips?? A couple of memorable moments and thats it. Nothing else. We cant fully rely on just young guys that are up and coming we need guys that know what its like to be at the top hence AI is a former MVP and has more All-Star appearences than our whole team in the past 15 years we need AI. Ramon Sessions?? Get real hes another Bobby Simmons a guy who puts together a solid year on a bad team in his contract year and will get a deal that will be horrible two months into the season.

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]]> By: JM http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11544 JM Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:52:34 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11544 +1 +1

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]]> By: John http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11542 John Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:23:07 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11542 DeAndre looked pixelated to me... he had a tendency to freeze whenever things started moving too fast, and he wasn't very vocal...didn't even make a sound when he dribbled or dunked. DeAndre looked pixelated to me… he had a tendency to freeze whenever things started moving too fast, and he wasn’t very vocal…didn’t even make a sound when he dribbled or dunked.

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]]> By: bongstradamus http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11539 bongstradamus Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:20:25 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11539 We could always offer a front loaded contract over the MLE that comes down in successive seasons and give a signing bonus, kinda like the Millsap deal. Force Milwaukee to have to make additional changes in order to get him back on a match. Honestly, besides Portland, we have the most potential to give him solid minutes and a big role on the team as it grows and BD ages. Portland or LA seems like a dream compared to winters in Wisconsin. If we can structure a deal over the MLE that exceeds Portlands cap (remember they are trying to get Roy to sign an extension), then we might be the best suitor for his services. We could always offer a front loaded contract over the MLE that comes down in successive seasons and give a signing bonus, kinda like the Millsap deal. Force Milwaukee to have to make additional changes in order to get him back on a match. Honestly, besides Portland, we have the most potential to give him solid minutes and a big role on the team as it grows and BD ages. Portland or LA seems like a dream compared to winters in Wisconsin. If we can structure a deal over the MLE that exceeds Portlands cap (remember they are trying to get Roy to sign an extension), then we might be the best suitor for his services.

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]]> By: bongstradamus http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11537 bongstradamus Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:56:58 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11537 It looked to me like DeAndre was trying to think too hard during the game. He's been going through a lot of work and is trying to fit in and develop more of his skills in the post. The free throw shooting, typically terrible for most big guys, will come once he spends more time on it. What I saw was him working to apply the stuff hes learned over the last season and the summer. He didnt seem as...erratic as he sometimes did last year, he was playing much more controlled and thinking more about what he was doing. Last year he'd be this huge ball of energy and just attack, so far this season hes working on positioning, footwork, post moves and the likes. He's going to be a great teammate. Hes just trying to put the whole package together. I really like the kid. It looked to me like DeAndre was trying to think too hard during the game. He’s been going through a lot of work and is trying to fit in and develop more of his skills in the post. The free throw shooting, typically terrible for most big guys, will come once he spends more time on it. What I saw was him working to apply the stuff hes learned over the last season and the summer. He didnt seem as…erratic as he sometimes did last year, he was playing much more controlled and thinking more about what he was doing. Last year he’d be this huge ball of energy and just attack, so far this season hes working on positioning, footwork, post moves and the likes. He’s going to be a great teammate. Hes just trying to put the whole package together. I really like the kid.

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]]> By: John http://clipperblog.com/2009/07/14/answer-me-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11536 John Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:52:31 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=2745#comment-11536 Damn I figured Moon was 22 or 23... being 29 he isn't going to get much better, I'd take a pass on him. I haven't watched Carney but everyone seems to think he's a good idea...i'll jump on the bandwagon. Damn I figured Moon was 22 or 23… being 29 he isn’t going to get much better, I’d take a pass on him. I haven’t watched Carney but everyone seems to think he’s a good idea…i’ll jump on the bandwagon.

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