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	<title>Comments on: Clippers Exercise Options on Gordon and Thornton</title>
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		<title>By: bongstradamus</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/10/13/clippers-exercise-options-on-gordon-and-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-21918</link>
		<dc:creator>bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyones freaking about Al&#039;s $3m.

HELLO!  LOOK AT KAMANS $11.3M!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyones freaking about Al&#8217;s $3m.</p>
<p>HELLO!  LOOK AT KAMANS $11.3M!</p>
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		<title>By: bongstradamus</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/10/13/clippers-exercise-options-on-gordon-and-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-21915</link>
		<dc:creator>bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand extending his rookie deal.  I just dont see us giving him big money once the cheap labor period ends.  We should try and trade him for an asset while his perceived value is relatively high.

Then again I called Al for what he was his rookie year and mentioned trading him then as well.  I like the guy, hes just not going to be attending many, if any, all star games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand extending his rookie deal.  I just dont see us giving him big money once the cheap labor period ends.  We should try and trade him for an asset while his perceived value is relatively high.</p>
<p>Then again I called Al for what he was his rookie year and mentioned trading him then as well.  I like the guy, hes just not going to be attending many, if any, all star games.</p>
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		<title>By: bongstradamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Chris Kamans deal was signed, I started worrying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Chris Kamans deal was signed, I started worrying.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuclips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuclips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto.</p>
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		<title>By: SamMays</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamMays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average salary is a  bit over 4 million. Al has started the last two years and will be an important figure this year. He&#039;s easily worth the money. Add to that, the third year is where most players prove their worth. Since Al is in his third year, it was a fairy easy decision to keep him. If he improves, he&#039;ll be a bargain next year. If not, he&#039;s still worth the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average salary is a  bit over 4 million. Al has started the last two years and will be an important figure this year. He&#8217;s easily worth the money. Add to that, the third year is where most players prove their worth. Since Al is in his third year, it was a fairy easy decision to keep him. If he improves, he&#8217;ll be a bargain next year. If not, he&#8217;s still worth the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously some of you need to relax.  Going back to the point Kevin made, Al is the only SF who will be back on the team next year.  You never know what FA will bring, but at 3M it&#039;s not a lot of money and should&#039;ve been done with no hesitation.  This is a no brainer and for those of you to turn it against Al who was the only positive thing going for us 2 years ago is BS.  Maybe he had a sophomore slump, but he at least played with heart everytime which is more than some other Clippers have in recent years.  Al is not the starting SF on an NBA Championship team, we aren&#039;t even considered a playoff team by many people so give it a break, 3M is cheap and those haters need to shut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously some of you need to relax.  Going back to the point Kevin made, Al is the only SF who will be back on the team next year.  You never know what FA will bring, but at 3M it&#8217;s not a lot of money and should&#8217;ve been done with no hesitation.  This is a no brainer and for those of you to turn it against Al who was the only positive thing going for us 2 years ago is BS.  Maybe he had a sophomore slump, but he at least played with heart everytime which is more than some other Clippers have in recent years.  Al is not the starting SF on an NBA Championship team, we aren&#8217;t even considered a playoff team by many people so give it a break, 3M is cheap and those haters need to shut it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think we&#039;ve seen about 95% of what Al will be as a basketball player...he is 26 after all, even if it&#039;s only his third year.  Whether or not he&#039;s worth 3mil will depend upon how effective he is as a scorer in the second unit.  I think he&#039;ll be good.

I was flipping through some of his stats at 82 games:  http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAC10.HTM

His PER jumps from 13.3 to 17.7 when he plays the PF spot.  Perhaps this is something mdsr should experiment with...since if he isn&#039;t standing 20 feet from the basket, he wont be able to jack up 20ft jumpshots.  Unfortunately when he plays the PF, the opposing teams PF has a PER of 19.9.  Of course when he plays SG, the opposing SG has a PER of 33.3...truly terrifying.

Don&#039;t disregard the notion that Al may not be worth 3mil.  The clippers were 5 points worse per 100 possessions when he was on the floor....and it&#039;s not like we were replacing him with &#039;quality&#039; players.  This is a telling stat...I don&#039;t care how hard someone plays or how athletic they play, if your team is worse with them, then don&#039;t pay them.  3mil could be a big deal when it comes to landing a 2010 free agent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think we&#8217;ve seen about 95% of what Al will be as a basketball player&#8230;he is 26 after all, even if it&#8217;s only his third year.  Whether or not he&#8217;s worth 3mil will depend upon how effective he is as a scorer in the second unit.  I think he&#8217;ll be good.</p>
<p>I was flipping through some of his stats at 82 games:  <a href="http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAC10.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.82games.com/0809/08LAC10.HTM</a></p>
<p>His PER jumps from 13.3 to 17.7 when he plays the PF spot.  Perhaps this is something mdsr should experiment with&#8230;since if he isn&#8217;t standing 20 feet from the basket, he wont be able to jack up 20ft jumpshots.  Unfortunately when he plays the PF, the opposing teams PF has a PER of 19.9.  Of course when he plays SG, the opposing SG has a PER of 33.3&#8230;truly terrifying.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t disregard the notion that Al may not be worth 3mil.  The clippers were 5 points worse per 100 possessions when he was on the floor&#8230;.and it&#8217;s not like we were replacing him with &#8216;quality&#8217; players.  This is a telling stat&#8230;I don&#8217;t care how hard someone plays or how athletic they play, if your team is worse with them, then don&#8217;t pay them.  3mil could be a big deal when it comes to landing a 2010 free agent.</p>
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		<title>By: VH</title>
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		<dc:creator>VH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since expiring contracts became more valuable than decent players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since expiring contracts became more valuable than decent players.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al always been my favorite player, since EB left us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al always been my favorite player, since EB left us</p>
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		<title>By: Pboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will give Al this year to prove himself, you never know he might be the X factor to get us that 8 spot for the playoff.</description>
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