Comments on: Dave Berri: Optimistic With Caveats

By: Brent Douglas

Brent Douglas — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:36:17 +0000

Clippers look good in the preseason so hopefully that’ll translate into regular games.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:09:34 +0000

I do, though, think that WOW could be a useful indicator if it accounted for more variables, the “Whys,” if you will. For Example: why was Camby so effective last year? Well, the defense allowed penetration on nearly every possession so a stop-gap/weak-side defender was hugely efficient statistically on this team. That very same defender would likely appear far less efficient on a team with a decent defense.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:05:37 +0000

Another reason to take issue with his methodology is that some players are inherently less productive statistically on bad team (Thornton, arguably… although one cd also argue the exact opposite for him), some players are inherently more productive statistically on good teams (shooters who need some space, like Butler) and some players are more productive statistically on bad teams (Camby, who seemed to be an incredible defender last year because the defense was terrible — essentially, penetration led to his block & +/- numbers). I think the Clips can be decent, and i enjoy statistical analysis but am entirely skeptical of all Wages of Wins projections. Don’t like that site.

By: SamMays

SamMays — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:11:28 +0000

My big fear is that once the regular season starts, Baron will feel a need to score 20+ a game. I like what he’s doing now, distributing the ball and getting shots for others. The last thing I want to see is him jacking up 3′s at 33%, while Gordon, Butler and a few much better shooters are taking fewer 3′s… We have some guys who can score in Gordon, Griffin, Kaman, Butler, Thornton, Smith…

I think chemistry will be out problem, much more than scoring. Baron can help with that.

By: JAX

JAX — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:46:04 +0000

IMO WOW is vastly overrated. Theoretically you could put under WOW 5 Camby’s on the floor together and the team would produce 50 wins. Which shows the fallacy of the system. Predicting single player “wins” in a game that takes 5 players playing together to win is impossible.

By: VH

VH — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:34:46 +0000

Thanks for posting this KA. I got a buddy that swears by berri, so i will be intrested to hear his take.

Watching these preseason games I am concerned that baron still doesnt seem to be like his GSW self. we need him to score as well as distribute the ball in order to make the playoffs. I also wonder if we will have Camby by the end of the season. Im sure he will have big trade value near the deadline. I’m not so concerned with the “negative” players, but staying healthy is a must. butler and smith have looked awesome. im very excited to have them in the mix. a lot of optimism here, and i cant wait for the season to start.

By: get serious

get serious — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:26:04 +0000

Clippers did a great job by acquiring Butler, Smith and Telfair. Now they have to do a far better job in trying to trade Kaman, Ricky and Thornton. They can fetch few more productive players in return.

Clippers are not going to re-sign above players. Then why not trade them now. They’ll fit in somewhere else.

Keeping Camby & Skinner makes no sense. They should keep Kareem Rush. Hopefully they’ll.

Addition of Griffin, Butler, Smith, Telfair and Rush would make this team competitive. And evolving Gordon and DeAndre will keep this team in good shape. But need to make a bold move to get rid of chemistry spoilers such as Kaman, Ricky and Thornton.

By: acd

acd — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:18:00 +0000

they should be better just because of this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHtqR2hW0hk