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Game Thread: Clippers at Lakers

Posted by Kevin Arnovitz on October 27, 2009 at 6:05 pm

Game 1

7p PT

TNT

980 AM

121 Responses

  1. avatar brad Said,

    I hope baron suits up

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    Kevin M Reply:

    Per Lisa Dillman’s twitter: “Oh, in the by-the-way department: Baron Davis will be able to play vs. Lakers. Not sure how many minutes the Bearded Distributor can go, tho”

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

  2. avatar brad Said,

    thanks for that

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

  3. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Thornton starting at SF tonight. Make sure you follow Clipperblog’s twitter feed for K.A.’s updates. I’ll be holding it down here in the comments section…if this game ever actually starts. http://twitter.com/clipperblog

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

  4. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Disheartening that the Clippers are down 18-15 despite turning the Lakers over 6 times already. Shot selection is absolutely terrible right now.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

  5. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Ricky Buckets checks in before Craig Smith or DeAndre Jordan. Dunleavy sticking with this extremely small lineup.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

  6. avatar the chosen one Said,

    Bad quarter start.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

  7. avatar Lawler's Law Said,

    you can tell ronron is bothering him on the release…

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

  8. avatar Beard The Curse Said,

    Nothing really different. No real spark. They’re playing just hard enough not to get run off the floor but it’ll come sometime in the 2nd.

    I was expecting some fire but havent seen much yet.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

  9. avatar Kevin M Said,

    These guys are fucking awful. Why do I support this team?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

  10. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Who had Ricky Davis in the “First Clipper to dive after a lose ball” pool? Anyone?

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    It’s amazing how careless with the ball every Clipper has been tonight. Sloppy, uninspired play.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

  11. avatar Euthanize Kaman Said,

    WTF is baron Davis doing?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

  12. avatar Kevin M Said,

    Is Dunleavy going to do any coaching? Fire that twat waffle already.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

  13. avatar Adam H Said,

    9 turnovers is terrible. Bad shot selection. Bad defensive rotations. R. Davis and A. Thornton are truly terrible.

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    Just careless turnovers too. 2 failed inbounds attempts. Just inexcusable play so far.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

  14. avatar Beard The Curse Said,

    This game is over already

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

  15. avatar neil Said,

    this looks like a team without a coach….

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

  16. avatar Tb Said,

    Is this preseason game number 1? WTF how many basic mistakes can we make?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

  17. avatar IronMike003 Said,

    This kinda sloppy crap cant continue for a whole game…..can it?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

  18. avatar neil Said,

    the coach just said the team is playing solid…..omg

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

  19. avatar Kyle Said,

    What kind of offense are we running? What would u call this? This is just sad

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    Kevin M Reply:

    This is called the “Mike Dunleavy calling the plays so the team is proper fucked”

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

  20. avatar Kevin M Said,

    Craig Smith is a beast. Love this guy.

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    Adam H Reply:

    weird.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

  21. avatar Adam H Said,

    Craig Smith is a beast. Second unit playing with a bit more fire.

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    You’re right- at least the second unit is playing with some energy. If mistakes come because the energy level is too high, you can live with that, but that certainly wasn’t the case with the first unit.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

  22. avatar Kevin M Said,

    Are we sure these aren’t the replacement refs? Getting jobbed out there.

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    Kevin M Reply:

    And it’s not like the Lakers need the help.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

  23. avatar the chosen one Said,

    Come Clips they are beating themselves badly.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

  24. avatar IronMike003 Said,

    sad thing is that the Lakers arent really showing us up. We are chokin

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    Kevin M Reply:

    Smith > Griffin

    Low blow, I apologize.

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    Kevin M Reply:

    Not sure why that showed up here. Clippers’ failings rubbing off on me.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

  25. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Craig Smith > Mbenga.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

  26. avatar Adam H Said,

    At least Mbenga isn’t on the clips. I don’t think I could take more sorry post moves.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

  27. avatar Kyle Said,

    Clips over/under 30 turnovers tonight? Better ? why am I shocked by this?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

  28. avatar Adam H Said,

    Lakers’ second unit is really bad.

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    IronMike003 Reply:

    we could use a lil laker bad play

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

  29. avatar Kevin M Said,

    Dunleavy always sounds like he just started following basketball a few weeks ago and is in the middle of “Basketball Coachin for Dummies.”

    “Hey, someone’s got to get on the offensive boards.” Brilliant stuff, coach.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

  30. avatar Tb Said,

    At the game. Got quiet in here.

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    Adam H Reply:

    Lakers fans didnt overpay to watch josh powell take 15 footers.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

  31. avatar Kevin M Said,

    If my Craig Smith boner were any larger it’d be poking my next door neighbor’s ear.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

  32. avatar Adam H Said,

    Khloe K came in her Halloween costume, how cute.

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    Kevin M Reply:

    Seabiscuit? Oh, right, that’s her natural look.

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    Adam H Reply:

    Actually, she came as Vigo the master of evil.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

  33. avatar Kyle Said,

    Attention all Clippers. Stop fouling. MOVE YOUR FEET. Lakers on pace to shoot 40+ free throws tonight.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

  34. avatar neil Said,

    last year this coach didnt play Gordon at the beginning of the year..tonight its Jordan

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

  35. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    It will be interesting to see if Baron starts the second half- he didn’t play at all in the second quarter and may be hurting a bit. Telfair and his unit were much more effective anyway.

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    Adam H Reply:

    Hurting? Did you see something happen?

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    Kevin M Reply:

    He’s had a foot problem the past couple of weeks.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

  36. avatar Euthanize Kaman Said,

    Put Gordon on fisher so dude stops getting bs fouls called for touching kobes aura.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

  37. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Clippers are probably down 16-20 without Craig Smith’s contributions. The bench guys really stepped it up that period.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

  38. avatar Beard The Curse Said,

    all this talk about running and it seems like we have the same slow ass uninspired team from last year

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    Chaderack Reply:

    Word..

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

  39. avatar Chaderack Said,

    Baron needs to step it up or bassy will start tomorrow. Why don’t they have Gordon and butler on the floor at the same time? They could be spreading the floor for our bigs.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

  40. avatar JakeC Said,

    Play DJ more!!! Bring in Novak for the 3′s and complete the rotations! We got lucky because they haven’t been able to hit their 3s

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

  41. avatar neil Said,

    sorry Jordan did play…..how could Smith shoot over 56% last year for Minn. and only avg. 10 points a game..Why didnt he get more shots and pt??? Anyone know?

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    Good question- my guess would be that he didn’t get a lot of looks because Minnesota preferred to run their offense through Jefferson and Love. He was also in foul trouble a lot when he played extended minutes, so that many have something to do with it.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

  42. avatar Euthanize Kaman Said,

    Let’s see if clips are awful after half time pep talk. They were awful straight out of half last year. Coach must be very inspirational….

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    Kevin M Reply:

    Worst second half team in the league last year.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

  43. avatar IronMike003 Said,

    is blake griffin ever going to SIT THE F DOWN?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

  44. avatar Kevin M Said,

    What the fuck, Baron?!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

  45. avatar Ben S. Said,

    i cringe anytime the ball goes anywhere near Chris Kaman
    oh and
    we are playing horrible….Baron Davis looks lost this early….the Clippers better play well and not feel sorry for themselves or they are going to lose the little fan support they still have….
    luckily we play the Suns tomorrow and they suck

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

  46. avatar Chris. Said,

    I like Kaman shooting the ball with 1 dribble or less like he is doing, but a lot of them are outside shots and I’m not as confident as those but at least they’re closer than Baron’s shot tonight. Come on BD, you should own the opposing PG’s.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

  47. avatar Ben S. Said,

    i could picture baron davis

    “fuck this blake is out imma just get hurt and chill for the rest of the year”

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

  48. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Doesn’t look like Baron has it tonight- might be time to sit him and let him rest his foot fully and roll with Telfair.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

  49. avatar Kevin M Said,

    That’s how you run a fast break. RUN DAMMIT!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

  50. avatar IronMike003 Said,

    nice to see us get within a couple scores but we can bever rally long enough for it to mean anything

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

  51. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Clippers just barely hanging around…gotta figure the Lakers will step on the gas soon here. Start of the 4th will be the time the Clippers will have to make their run against the Lakers bench.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

  52. avatar Chris. Said,

    Thorton can’t do anything right tonight except get crappy rebounds. His shot selection leaves everything to be desired. Oh me oh my! I wish it was Ralph’s voice I was listening to.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

  53. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Is there a pair of 7 footers in the league that shoot more jumpers than Kaman and Camby?

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    Chris. Reply:

    It’s better than Baron & Al shooting tonight at least.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

  54. avatar Chris. Said,

    Gordon rules! I love that guy!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

  55. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    6 offensive boards for Thornton! That’s gotta be some sort of personal record.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

  56. avatar Adam H Said,

    Disconcerting that we have taken a total of 7 free throws tonight. Need to attack the rim better.

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    Excellent point.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

  57. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Baron has been terrible offensively, but he’s done the best job out of anyone on Kobe in post up situations. Let’s see how Butler fares here.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

  58. avatar Kevin M Said,

    TELFAIR with the dime!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

  59. avatar Chris. Said,

    Wow, awesome 3rd quarter for the Clippers! Who woulda thunk it. I love this game!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

  60. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Great end to the half there- I think Dunleavy found his crunch time lineup tonight, if the game gets there.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

  61. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Clippers really need to come out and make their run while the Lakers starters (presumably) rest to start the 4th. Telfair and Craig Smith need to be on the floor here.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

  62. avatar Chris. Said,

    oy, 2 fouls in the first minute of the final period isn’t great.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

  63. avatar Chris. Said,

    he didn’t touch it

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

  64. avatar Adam H Said,

    Our inability to rebound is coming back to haunt the clippers. Too many second chances.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

  65. avatar Chris. Said,

    i hate these refs helping the lakers in the 4th, gordon didn’t foul lamar

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

  66. avatar Kevin M Said,

    And here comes the customary 4th quarter collapse…

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

  67. avatar Ian Said,

    They are absolutely terrible whenever EJ checks out…. Will someone explain to him that he can’t pick up stupid fouls?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

  68. avatar Adam H Said,

    Baron is 1-9 from the field. Yikes. Can’t get to the rim, can’t make a shot. Hard to win when he is such a minus.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

  69. avatar Ian Said,

    Telfair & Smith have been really encouraging though!!!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

  70. avatar Adam H Said,

    No one seems to want to box out Odom. A. Thorton should be the 10th man off the bench.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

  71. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    That Odom three is a backbreaker.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

  72. avatar Chris. Said,

    If only our starters would be as fun to watch as our bench. It’s not something we Clipper fans are used to. Baron & Al & even Butler for that matter are having awful shooting nights & it has to get better. First game with so much hype & hope i hope they are just trying to do too much and making things worse. Even Jordan hasn’t looked to stellar.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

  73. avatar btc Said,

    The NBA. Where grunting and yelping like school girl will get you free throws

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    Mrwilleeeum Reply:

    Seriously 37 fta – 16 fta

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

  74. avatar Adam H Said,

    The collapse is officially complete.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

  75. avatar Kevin M Said,

    Good to see MDSr still can’t coach in the 4th quarter.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

  76. avatar btc Said,

    The lack of enthusiasm or effort is insane. It’s game one and the apathy had set in.

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    ‘Twas a very sloppy, very ugly game. It’s like preseason never even happened.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

  77. avatar Kevin M Said,

    What do you guys think about Rondo? It looks like he’ll be a restricted free agent next year and I would love to swing a sign-and-trade as I believe the Celtics would match any offer (unless the relationship deteriorates even further.)

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    Adam H Reply:

    Who would the clips give up?

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    Chris. Reply:

    i think we need to address the SF positional needs before we go for Rondo.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

  78. avatar Ben S. Said,

    same ole story….we get within 2 ….and ITS LIKE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OVER THE HUMP….we either take and miss horrible shots …or turn the ball over…it never changes…
    had Baron Davis played atleast a mediocre game we would have probably won…..

    all is not bad though Eric Gordon is our future and we better covet this guy…hes the type of guy i can see us retiring his jersey…..

    on a positive note…..we shoud win tomorrow….if we do not beat the fucking SUNS…….
    the season is over…
    we should not lose against any team that does not have a Kobe Bryant….
    thats how confident I am when we play good (if we do )

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    Chaderack Reply:

    wow nice confidence..

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

  79. avatar Ben S. Said,

    by the way Al Thornton is horrible….he shoots when he is a horrible shooter….his thing is driving and he never does it …..

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

  80. avatar Ben S. Said,

    Eric Gordon
    woah

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

  81. avatar Chris. Said,

    For what it’s worth we were one of the worst teams in the NBA last year and up until the 4th quarter with some spurts it was a 1 point game with the defending champions. Positive thoughts, right?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

  82. avatar Kevin M Said,

    3-14 from 3, 17 offensive boards given up, 35 FT given up, 20 turns…yeah, that’s not going to win too many games regardless of opponent.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

  83. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Down 7, 25 seconds left…and no foul? At least give yourself one more chance to cut it to a two possession game. Hate it when teams admit defeat when there’s still a 1% chance they could win.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

  84. avatar craig Said,

    Baron is picking up right where he left off last year! 1-10?

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

  85. avatar Adam H Said,

    18pt. 16reb for Kaman is a pretty solid start. Now he needs to play some more defense.

    Overall, bittersweet effort by the clips. Baron was abysmal, Thorton sucks, but second unit was impressive. Gordon, Smith, and Kaman had good starts, Butler needs to do better.

    Oh yeah, and Dunleavy is an awful a coach. He is going to cost this team 9-12 wins this year.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

  86. avatar D.J. Foster Said,

    Thanks to everyone who commented during the game. Tomorrow we’ll be using a live chat format where I’ll be live blogging the home opener against Phoenix at 7:30pm. Stop by with your questions and comments!

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

  87. avatar Chris. Said,

    Gordon, Kaman & Camby where good for our starters, but unfortunately Baron & Thorton were that bad. Our 2nd unit was by far better, especially Telfair & Smith but Butler wasn’t his pre-season self at all. oy, not bad but not great. Hopefully the Clippers have enough energy for the new uptempo Suns tomorrow night. This 4 games in 5 nights to start out the season is kinda brutal if you ask me.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

  88. avatar JakeC Said,

    When we get down by 12 pts call a fucking time out!!!! I don’t think he called 1 timeout. Dunleavy hasn’t changed and Baron hasn’t changed.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

  89. avatar FireDunleavy .com Said,

    Well it was the Lakers, I don’t think they’re gonna lose much this years. Can’t get down on them that much for losing to them. Another 4th quarter collapse though. Next 2 games Clippers play 2 teams that are competing for the lower playoff seeds.

    Kaman looked ok, maybe someone will want to trade for him. Did the Clippers run more? Not really.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

  90. avatar EricGordonsAnkleBrace Said,

    That was the best when Baron threw up a brick and the announcers were like “that was the best looking shot tonight from Baron Davis”… he missed. So funny, just what you want from your 65 million dollar man….

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

  91. avatar los831 Said,

    thornton nor butler are not reliable. we need a solid long time SF… look at Anthony and James…

    Davis is hurt right now let him rest and throw Mardy Collins in there

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

  92. avatar jgroove Said,

    OK, let’s be clear we wouldn’t have won this game with Griffin. We lost this because Baron couldn’t shoot worth a lick. 1-10. Really? No one else could take a shot? Egad.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

  93. avatar VH Said,

    No moral victories, but this once could have been over 2-3 times if the effort wasn’t there. I like this team with or without Griffin. Obviously Baron needs to find his shot. It’s shocking that he could go from a 20pt/game scorer to this so quickly. Very impressed with Bassy, very impressed with Smith. We need someone who can step up and score in 4th on isos/picknroll. Not every play, but you have to go to it when you really need a bucket, and it has to work. A win tomorrow would go a long way.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

  94. avatar Clipped12 Said,

    Typical Dunleavy. We get within 1 after the 3rd quarter and we’re starting to make our run. Then of course, he takes out our most consistent scorer in Eric Gordon. Smart move.

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    Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

  95. avatar jgroove Said,

    I rarely agree with Kenny Smith, but he nailed it on the head in the TNT post game tonight. This team does not have anyone who can finish in the fourth quarter. That’s what we are missing at the 1 and 3. Baron hasn’t really been able to do it since he did that miracle playoff run over three years ago. People forget Ellis and Jackson were the key to them barely making the playoffs the following year. Gordon may eventually be that player, but not yet. Kaman and Camby are great 3 quarter players but they can’t make the big shot to keep you in the game or win it in the fourth. Shoot, even Tim Thomas and Cutino Mobley could make that shot more than anyone we have now! That’s what we are missing with F-Elton and Cassell gone (although arguably F-Elton can’t do that anymore either…). And as great as Blake may be, until he gets a jumper, he won’t be that player either. So, when the 32 win predictions come true, that’s why. They can play “hard” till the cows come home, but what you are is what you are. And unless Baron magically turns into the player he was over three years ago, that’s what they are.

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    Posted on October 28th, 2009 at 1:45 am

  96. avatar Stian Said,

    Tonite reminded why I wanted to KILL Baron Davis last year.

    How stupid do you have to be to take shot after shot on a gimpy leg instead of deferring to your teammates, especially one Eric Gordon?

    AAAAARGGHHH!

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    Posted on October 28th, 2009 at 2:06 am

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