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		<title>By: benoit benjamin's two left shoes</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/03/clippers-93-minnesota-90/comment-page-1/#comment-24419</link>
		<dc:creator>benoit benjamin's two left shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re EJ&#039;s 0-0 from the FT line:  I&#039;m a little worried he&#039;s getting a rep with the refs as a whiner.  I&#039;ve noticed this in a couple of games already.  When he doesn&#039;t get a call, he makes his unhappiness known with some not so subtle body language, then goes into a funk.   And, of course, he doesn&#039;t get the next call since he&#039;s just shown up the refs and his funk gets deeper and he gets more tentative.

IMO, he needs to forget about the calls and just go to the rim like he did last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re EJ&#8217;s 0-0 from the FT line:  I&#8217;m a little worried he&#8217;s getting a rep with the refs as a whiner.  I&#8217;ve noticed this in a couple of games already.  When he doesn&#8217;t get a call, he makes his unhappiness known with some not so subtle body language, then goes into a funk.   And, of course, he doesn&#8217;t get the next call since he&#8217;s just shown up the refs and his funk gets deeper and he gets more tentative.</p>
<p>IMO, he needs to forget about the calls and just go to the rim like he did last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey Departs From Back: Clippers Get 1st Win &#124; Fully Clips &#124; A LA Clippers Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey Departs From Back: Clippers Get 1st Win &#124; Fully Clips &#124; A LA Clippers Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] healthy now.  Leave it to the great Kevin Arnovitz to use last night&#8217;s game to point out what&#8217;s really changed in Kaman&#8217;s game: his movement without the ball.  Kaman came into camp in phenomenal shape, so I dunno if [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] healthy now.  Leave it to the great Kevin Arnovitz to use last night&#8217;s game to point out what&#8217;s really changed in Kaman&#8217;s game: his movement without the ball.  Kaman came into camp in phenomenal shape, so I dunno if [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stian</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/03/clippers-93-minnesota-90/comment-page-1/#comment-24412</link>
		<dc:creator>Stian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question is - did YOU?

Here&#039;s a reality check for you Baron nuthuggers:

33.3 FG%
26.3 3-PT%
72.7 FT%

If you don&#039;t understand just how huge of a detriment that is to the team despite his 7.6 dimes and 2.2 steals, you simply don&#039;t get it.

Baron should be the assists leader by a wide margin instead of the worst shooting PG in the NBA by a wide margin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question is &#8211; did YOU?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a reality check for you Baron nuthuggers:</p>
<p>33.3 FG%<br />
26.3 3-PT%<br />
72.7 FT%</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t understand just how huge of a detriment that is to the team despite his 7.6 dimes and 2.2 steals, you simply don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Baron should be the assists leader by a wide margin instead of the worst shooting PG in the NBA by a wide margin!</p>
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		<title>By: TNT57</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNT57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron should experiment with his game.  Go into a game and not take one shot and see what happens.  I&#039;d much prefer 15 assists and no points to the 2 for 10 he&#039;s putting up night after night after night...  I don&#039;t know why DJ isn&#039;t playing more.  Camby has become a shoot first player.  Al Thorton should be traded.  Butler is clearly a much smarter player and i&#039;ll take BB IQ over brute athleticism  any day.   Pathetic win.  If this team can&#039;t pound a team like the Wolves we have zero chance against 95 percent of the league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron should experiment with his game.  Go into a game and not take one shot and see what happens.  I&#8217;d much prefer 15 assists and no points to the 2 for 10 he&#8217;s putting up night after night after night&#8230;  I don&#8217;t know why DJ isn&#8217;t playing more.  Camby has become a shoot first player.  Al Thorton should be traded.  Butler is clearly a much smarter player and i&#8217;ll take BB IQ over brute athleticism  any day.   Pathetic win.  If this team can&#8217;t pound a team like the Wolves we have zero chance against 95 percent of the league.</p>
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		<title>By: Junior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron Davis is now shooting 33% on the year. Despite what he&#039;s doing ok, his shooting is costing us dearly. If he was even an average shooter we&#039;d probably have at least 1 more win right now. He is absolutely killing us. I actually find myself feeling more at ease when I see Telfair come in the game. 

As far as Gordon getting to the line, it seems like this year for some strange reason more than last year, his lack of length is really hurting him. He&#039;s gotten rejected a lot this year going to the basket. There are guys his height who can finish at the basket with good success like Iverson and Nash for instance, but they have infinitely better handles than Gordon which allows them to maneuver better in the lane and get a shot off that&#039;s harder to block. Gordon basically just barrels into the lane and puts a shot up, and lately it seems like guys are just right there ready swat it. I think for right now he needs to focus on his perimeter attack and allow his ball handling to develop so that he will be able to create shots in the lane that aren&#039;t bothered as much by lengthy defenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron Davis is now shooting 33% on the year. Despite what he&#8217;s doing ok, his shooting is costing us dearly. If he was even an average shooter we&#8217;d probably have at least 1 more win right now. He is absolutely killing us. I actually find myself feeling more at ease when I see Telfair come in the game. </p>
<p>As far as Gordon getting to the line, it seems like this year for some strange reason more than last year, his lack of length is really hurting him. He&#8217;s gotten rejected a lot this year going to the basket. There are guys his height who can finish at the basket with good success like Iverson and Nash for instance, but they have infinitely better handles than Gordon which allows them to maneuver better in the lane and get a shot off that&#8217;s harder to block. Gordon basically just barrels into the lane and puts a shot up, and lately it seems like guys are just right there ready swat it. I think for right now he needs to focus on his perimeter attack and allow his ball handling to develop so that he will be able to create shots in the lane that aren&#8217;t bothered as much by lengthy defenders.</p>
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		<title>By: gsr</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/03/clippers-93-minnesota-90/comment-page-1/#comment-24400</link>
		<dc:creator>gsr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, Gordon is only 20. He&#039;s basically a self-driven player like those superstars. But when he plays like them, Dunleavy would call time-out. That one incident last season might have dampened his spirit. When he  &#039;feels&#039;  it, he likes to attack &amp; shoot. But Dunleavy doesn&#039;t like &#039;concentrated&#039;  &amp; &#039;focused&#039; play by anyone.

That&#039;s why Clippers don&#039;t produce any superstars. Superstars demand TOTAL freedom. Clippers are averse to such freedom. If you curtail &amp; control a talent, what you get is: LOSS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, Gordon is only 20. He&#8217;s basically a self-driven player like those superstars. But when he plays like them, Dunleavy would call time-out. That one incident last season might have dampened his spirit. When he  &#8216;feels&#8217;  it, he likes to attack &amp; shoot. But Dunleavy doesn&#8217;t like &#8216;concentrated&#8217;  &amp; &#8216;focused&#8217; play by anyone.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Clippers don&#8217;t produce any superstars. Superstars demand TOTAL freedom. Clippers are averse to such freedom. If you curtail &amp; control a talent, what you get is: LOSS.</p>
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		<title>By: VH</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/03/clippers-93-minnesota-90/comment-page-1/#comment-24398</link>
		<dc:creator>VH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like everyone else I want Gordon to shoot more, but he is doing it the right way for a young player.  Take your shots, be efficient and the coaching staff will run plays for you.  If Dunleavy doesn&#039;t, its just another reason why he should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like everyone else I want Gordon to shoot more, but he is doing it the right way for a young player.  Take your shots, be efficient and the coaching staff will run plays for you.  If Dunleavy doesn&#8217;t, its just another reason why he should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Pez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was more disheartened watching this game than any of our four losses...like a lot of Clips fans I bet.  This post eases the pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was more disheartened watching this game than any of our four losses&#8230;like a lot of Clips fans I bet.  This post eases the pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a great game.  Nonetheless, it would have been nice to see the Clips put away the Wolves with ease, but we need to think BABY STEPS.  We got one win under belt with a slew of lower echelon teams on the way.

What I&#039;ve started noticing is that our team seems to be comprised of a bunch of different tandems: i.e. B. Davis / Kaman, Telfair / Smith, Gordon / Griffin (Super G combo).  We start out with a bang with Davis racking up the assists and Kaman making nearly everything.  

But then, by the second half, opponents are catching up to our antics and shutting the Baron / Kaman combo down.  Right now, our team seems to be way too lopsided.  We need to figure out how to get the other guys out there to give a stronger offense impact rather than being mere contributors.  I guess that&#039;s all a part of having new guys and an injured Griffin.

On a side note, I&#039;d say our defense is looking pretty good.  Having Camby and Kaman trolling the rim, Baron sniffing out loose balls, Gordon fighting through screens, and everyone rotating seems to be working fairly well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great game.  Nonetheless, it would have been nice to see the Clips put away the Wolves with ease, but we need to think BABY STEPS.  We got one win under belt with a slew of lower echelon teams on the way.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve started noticing is that our team seems to be comprised of a bunch of different tandems: i.e. B. Davis / Kaman, Telfair / Smith, Gordon / Griffin (Super G combo).  We start out with a bang with Davis racking up the assists and Kaman making nearly everything.  </p>
<p>But then, by the second half, opponents are catching up to our antics and shutting the Baron / Kaman combo down.  Right now, our team seems to be way too lopsided.  We need to figure out how to get the other guys out there to give a stronger offense impact rather than being mere contributors.  I guess that&#8217;s all a part of having new guys and an injured Griffin.</p>
<p>On a side note, I&#8217;d say our defense is looking pretty good.  Having Camby and Kaman trolling the rim, Baron sniffing out loose balls, Gordon fighting through screens, and everyone rotating seems to be working fairly well.</p>
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		<title>By: Clipped12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clipped12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Gordon is that he still isn&#039;t confident enough to demand the ball.  There were plenty of times I saw Gordon last night pass up an open shot and instead pass it up to Camby or even Baron, even though he&#039;s the most consistent shooter and scorer we have on this team.  Baron got it to him, but he just didn&#039;t want to take it for whatever reason.  I guess it&#039;s just Gordon&#039;s personality since he is a pretty quiet person.  When you look at the superstars in this league like D-Wade, LeBron, Kobe, Dwight, they all have that personality that makes them that &quot;superstar.&quot;  With Gordon, I just don&#039;t see it.  He needs to be way more aggressive if the Clippers are ever going to get to the next level since our future mainly rests between Eric and Blake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Gordon is that he still isn&#8217;t confident enough to demand the ball.  There were plenty of times I saw Gordon last night pass up an open shot and instead pass it up to Camby or even Baron, even though he&#8217;s the most consistent shooter and scorer we have on this team.  Baron got it to him, but he just didn&#8217;t want to take it for whatever reason.  I guess it&#8217;s just Gordon&#8217;s personality since he is a pretty quiet person.  When you look at the superstars in this league like D-Wade, LeBron, Kobe, Dwight, they all have that personality that makes them that &#8220;superstar.&#8221;  With Gordon, I just don&#8217;t see it.  He needs to be way more aggressive if the Clippers are ever going to get to the next level since our future mainly rests between Eric and Blake.</p>
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