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Game Thread: Minnesota at Clippers

Posted by Kevin Arnovitz on November 23, 2009 at 5:30 pm

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18 Responses

  1. avatar neil Said,

    This is why i dont like Dunleavy…he buried Jordan and Collins(last year it was Gordan till an injury opened up a spot)and even Smith to a lesser degree.You have to trust your bench thru injuries….good or bad..its a long season and you will need these players.

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

  2. avatar Stian Said,

    The Beck pic is highly appropriate given that we are – once again! – playing like ‘Loser’s.

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 pm

  3. avatar Newport Beach Clipper Said,

    Where is Baron? LOL. Is Dunleavy sending him a message? TELFAIR ROCKS.

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm

  4. avatar Newport Beach Clipper Said,

    Baron is mad. Clippers are winning. Telfair in there at crunch time. Baron is 0-for-9.

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm

  5. avatar Dial GSW Said,

    I like Baron the person. I wish him well. But he’s not himself in Clipper uniform. He flourished under Don Nelson. And GSW did far better under Baron.

    Why not trade Baron to GSW for Corey Maggette & a rookie PG? Corey can solidify our bench alongwith Camby, Butler, Smith and Mardy.

    Our starting 5 of near future: Griffin, Kaman, Telfair, Thornton and Gordon.
    Imagine this: All 5 starters are having an explosive career right now. Put them all together, you have a perfect winning combination. Telfair style of playmaking skills are compatible with this team from top to bottom.

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    Dial GSW Reply:

    With those 5 veteran players coming off the bench, it’ll be extremely difficult to penetrate inner core of this team by any opponent. Explosive starting 5 + experienced bench squad= A winning season. This is the season we need to break free from the past. You can’t do it with Baron “guarding” this team.

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    bongstradamus Reply:

    We coulda kept Corey for MLE. Dun let him walk.

    We could package Baron with Camby though and get Corey and Monta, but thats adding a lot more years in contracts, decreases flexibility for next year and you could get better. And do you really want Monta runnin the Clips? Pass.

    With just moving a single player, Memphis is obviously not happy with their point guard. Financially though, they dont have very many big contracts except Jaric’s which they desperately want to unload. If you made an offer for Rudy Gay, Mike Conley and Marko Jaric for Baron Davis that might financially work. Or Thornton if they want a prospect to make up for Gay. Or Camby for that matter if they want to gain more cap.

    But even what works financially isnt always the best deal. However, we need a dominant 3 and they need a dominant 1. In the end both teams get better people to fill the roles for which they have needs.

    Ya know, just thinking aloud here

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    Stian Reply:

    I would really like to see this team – as is – play with a real point guard.

    There was a consensus in the pre-season that the key to this season/success was the play of Baron Davis who promised us his best season ever.

    Well, 15 games into the season it is clear that very little has changed. Baron is still a total liability on most nights and we are struggling first and foremost because he just can’t – or won’t – make it happen.

    The PROBLEM is Baron – much more so than Dunleavy.

    Obviously the offense is much more fluid with Telfair out there and he/it saved us tonight. If we had a better, taller version of Telfair as our starter instead of Baron at his worst we’d be stylin’.

    We need to upgrade at PG. If that doesn’t happen we’re never gonna get to the next level. And we have the pieces to get there. Except for the right PG.

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    SamMays Reply:

    Sessions was that better, taller version of Telfair… I’d be content with Baron as our 3rd string PG since I can’t imagine anyone wanting him at that salary.

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    gsr Reply:

    We cannot judge Telfair by his height. We can say the same thing about Gordon as well. How about Iverson? Telfair is no Boykins.

    This team can do fine with Telfair. His good years are yet to come. Let it happen with Clippers. If Rajon Rondo plays for Clippers, we’d say the same thing about him too.

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    JM Reply:

    “We coulda kept Corey for MLE.”

    What do you base this on?

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    bongstradamus Reply:

    Corey offered ro re-sign that summer for MLE to keep him and Brand as Clippers and to free up cash to make an offer to Baron. We had his bird rights and he played here for nearly his entire career. But we let Corey walk instead and Brand ended up leaving for Philly. In the end we got Baron but let 2 of our best assets go out the door for basically nothing.

    Getting Baron in the end was actually fortunate, we could have ended up with nothing and been in an even worse place then we are. But for a few days we could have had all 3 at pretty good rates. Then again, we wouldnt have been so bad as to get the lottery pick last year, so maybe it was a blessing in disguise.

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    JM Reply:

    From what I recall, Maggette insisted he gave the Clippers one last chance to offer him what GS ended up offering him. I don’t remember ever reading about Maggette willing to take the mid-level exception to stay (and even if he did say it, I find it hard to believe).

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    SamMays Reply:

    I’d make that trade in a heartbeat…

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 pm

  6. avatar Stian Said,

    What a nail biter!

    So great to see Thornton dialing it in again, Camby ruling the boards, and Bassy giving us what Baron is incapable of or refusing to do at this point.

    I hate to say it but even if we dump Dunleavy – we’ll still not get to the next level as long as Baron and is atrocious attitude and play is part of this team.

    This clown gets outplayed by the opposing PG virtually every night and I’m sick of it. Tonight, Johnny Flynn ran a clinic around Baron and if it wasn’t for Bassy we’d have lost to a 1-13 team AT HOME.

    Get this wannabe movie producer off my team.

    NOW!

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm

  7. avatar Newport Beach Clipper Said,

    If Thornton, Kaman, and Bassy keep it up…and you add Gordon and Griffin to the mix…wow. AND, they are all so young…what a fun nucleus.

    Maybe LeBron can come next year and win 6th Man of the Year (LOL…just kidding).

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    SamMays Reply:

    Can Lebron play PG?

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    bongstradamus Reply:

    He did his first season

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 pm

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