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	<title>Comments on: Indiana 86, Clippers 73</title>
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		<title>By: Bongstradamus</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27700</link>
		<dc:creator>Bongstradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont forget to point out this is the same Dunleavy that said he &quot;signed&quot; Kobe Bryant too.  Except....he didnt.  A deal isnt a deal until a signature is on the contract.  Thats like me saying I signed LeBron...really.  At least, he said he would be a Clipper off the record.

EB gave us nearly a decade of double doubles and then had his first major injury.  He gave 4 seasons of 80 games each season and another 2 of 60+.  He was an ironman by Clipper standards.

Youve got the revisionist history.

1999 Clippers record:  15 wins, 67 losses.  Pre-EB
2000 Clippers record:  31 wins, 51 losses.  EB arrives for Tyson Chandlers rights (Pick #2 in draft).

Best trade Elgin Baylor ever made.

He made a huge improvement to our team.  In fact, you probably became a fan because of him, or at last indirectly through what he contributed.

And when he finally got real minutes in Philly before getting a hammy injury, EB was back to his double-double form.

If you really love the team, respect the guys that actually gave us a legacy to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont forget to point out this is the same Dunleavy that said he &#8220;signed&#8221; Kobe Bryant too.  Except&#8230;.he didnt.  A deal isnt a deal until a signature is on the contract.  Thats like me saying I signed LeBron&#8230;really.  At least, he said he would be a Clipper off the record.</p>
<p>EB gave us nearly a decade of double doubles and then had his first major injury.  He gave 4 seasons of 80 games each season and another 2 of 60+.  He was an ironman by Clipper standards.</p>
<p>Youve got the revisionist history.</p>
<p>1999 Clippers record:  15 wins, 67 losses.  Pre-EB<br />
2000 Clippers record:  31 wins, 51 losses.  EB arrives for Tyson Chandlers rights (Pick #2 in draft).</p>
<p>Best trade Elgin Baylor ever made.</p>
<p>He made a huge improvement to our team.  In fact, you probably became a fan because of him, or at last indirectly through what he contributed.</p>
<p>And when he finally got real minutes in Philly before getting a hammy injury, EB was back to his double-double form.</p>
<p>If you really love the team, respect the guys that actually gave us a legacy to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: FireDunleavy .com</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27690</link>
		<dc:creator>FireDunleavy .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just saying I&#039;d rather have Brand for 1 year than Kaman.  I don&#039;t think the Clippers should try to trade for him or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just saying I&#8217;d rather have Brand for 1 year than Kaman.  I don&#8217;t think the Clippers should try to trade for him or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: rbm</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27679</link>
		<dc:creator>rbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Cause we don&#039;t want Blake Griffin to get injured and jeopardize the future of Blake &amp; Clippers.

If we don&#039;t act smart &amp; quick, that&#039;s what going to  happen.
Bad luck gets accumulated &#039;cause we keep making bad decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Cause we don&#8217;t want Blake Griffin to get injured and jeopardize the future of Blake &amp; Clippers.</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t act smart &amp; quick, that&#8217;s what going to  happen.<br />
Bad luck gets accumulated &#8217;cause we keep making bad decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: rbm</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27678</link>
		<dc:creator>rbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stian, I agree with you 100%. My opinion only reflects our dire situation. 
We have a serious problem when it comes to attracting quality players(in their primes) Cassell, Mobley, Camby are exception because they gave it all inspite of where they&#039;re playing. They&#039;re not just players; they&#039;re MEN with great character.

By making(by forcing) Griffin &amp; Gordon carry the burden for next 3-4 seasons would make things worse for all involved.  They need help. And they need it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stian, I agree with you 100%. My opinion only reflects our dire situation.<br />
We have a serious problem when it comes to attracting quality players(in their primes) Cassell, Mobley, Camby are exception because they gave it all inspite of where they&#8217;re playing. They&#8217;re not just players; they&#8217;re MEN with great character.</p>
<p>By making(by forcing) Griffin &amp; Gordon carry the burden for next 3-4 seasons would make things worse for all involved.  They need help. And they need it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stian</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27671</link>
		<dc:creator>Stian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF are you talkin about?!  

Brand took it upon himself to work out a handshake agreement with Dunleavy to stay for x amount of dollars if he would get Baron. When his agent found out his client had cut a deal without him in the loop he threw a shit fit and EB backpeddled and hid behind his agent like a little girl behind momma&#039;s apron. 

Don&#039;t insult Clipper fans with your revisionist history BS that has nothing to do with how it really went down. Not to mention that EB ended up doing us a HUGE favor with his backstab - we got Griffin out of it and the Sixers are stuck with a broken down 80 mio. dollar player they can&#039;t get rid of for another 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF are you talkin about?!  </p>
<p>Brand took it upon himself to work out a handshake agreement with Dunleavy to stay for x amount of dollars if he would get Baron. When his agent found out his client had cut a deal without him in the loop he threw a shit fit and EB backpeddled and hid behind his agent like a little girl behind momma&#8217;s apron. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t insult Clipper fans with your revisionist history BS that has nothing to do with how it really went down. Not to mention that EB ended up doing us a HUGE favor with his backstab &#8211; we got Griffin out of it and the Sixers are stuck with a broken down 80 mio. dollar player they can&#8217;t get rid of for another 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Stian</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27670</link>
		<dc:creator>Stian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand Chuck Davis and his weak Debby Downer attitude but I&#039;d rather be stuck with him @ 65 mio. and trade him along the way than be on the hook for 130 mio. between Bland and Maggette.  

Remember, the ONLY reason the Clippers ever made the post-season with these 2 geniuses was when Sam Cassell took it upon himself to get it done - and that was with a pre-injury EB. This guy has since had worse and more frequent injuries than even TMac. 

You are delusional to think Brand 2009 is anywhere near Brand 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand Chuck Davis and his weak Debby Downer attitude but I&#8217;d rather be stuck with him @ 65 mio. and trade him along the way than be on the hook for 130 mio. between Bland and Maggette.  </p>
<p>Remember, the ONLY reason the Clippers ever made the post-season with these 2 geniuses was when Sam Cassell took it upon himself to get it done &#8211; and that was with a pre-injury EB. This guy has since had worse and more frequent injuries than even TMac. </p>
<p>You are delusional to think Brand 2009 is anywhere near Brand 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Pboy</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27651</link>
		<dc:creator>Pboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the hell do we want Brand back?  We got BG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the hell do we want Brand back?  We got BG.</p>
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		<title>By: rbm</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27647</link>
		<dc:creator>rbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brand left because Dunleavy gave him a wrong signal. If you tell Brand &quot;take it or leave it&quot; he&#039;s going to leave it &#039;cause he has self-respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brand left because Dunleavy gave him a wrong signal. If you tell Brand &#8220;take it or leave it&#8221; he&#8217;s going to leave it &#8217;cause he has self-respect.</p>
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		<title>By: rbm</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27646</link>
		<dc:creator>rbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we better off now than before? 
Quality players don&#039;t sign with Clippers if they&#039;re 100% healthy. 
We could have kept Brand/Maggette for another 5 seasons to keep the house in order. Look what&#039;s happening now.

Most ridiculous thing: trying to rebuild under BARON DAVIS!!!!  Ya...same Baron Davis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we better off now than before?<br />
Quality players don&#8217;t sign with Clippers if they&#8217;re 100% healthy.<br />
We could have kept Brand/Maggette for another 5 seasons to keep the house in order. Look what&#8217;s happening now.</p>
<p>Most ridiculous thing: trying to rebuild under BARON DAVIS!!!!  Ya&#8230;same Baron Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris.</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/25/indiana-86-clippers-73/comment-page-1/#comment-27629</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these people need to stop being that abused girl who goes back to their wife beater husbands because &quot;they can change.&quot;  Brand left us out in the cold and it&#039;s always effing 80 degrees in LA.  Screw him and the broken horse he left on.  The same people probably think Danny Ferry could still come back and save this sinking Clipper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these people need to stop being that abused girl who goes back to their wife beater husbands because &#8220;they can change.&#8221;  Brand left us out in the cold and it&#8217;s always effing 80 degrees in LA.  Screw him and the broken horse he left on.  The same people probably think Danny Ferry could still come back and save this sinking Clipper.</p>
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