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		<title>By: Beard The Curse</title>
		<link>http://clipperblog.com/2009/11/27/clippers-104-detroit-96/comment-page-1/#comment-27769</link>
		<dc:creator>Beard The Curse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, DJ,

Since Baron is such a debated topic on CB, I thought you guys would find it interesting that I&#039;m in 1st place in a roto league based on PER where I&#039;ve started Baron all year. Since the rosters are limited to 7 players and only 5 can start, I have to start Baron. And he&#039;s come through for me this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, DJ,</p>
<p>Since Baron is such a debated topic on CB, I thought you guys would find it interesting that I&#8217;m in 1st place in a roto league based on PER where I&#8217;ve started Baron all year. Since the rosters are limited to 7 players and only 5 can start, I have to start Baron. And he&#8217;s come through for me this year.</p>
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		<title>By: rbm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to scout for budding talents everywhere. Clippers should spend more money on this front. Make a short list of most talented players and follow them. It involves hard work but rewarding during the season.

Dunleavy should find more minutes to Smith, DeAndre and Telfair. If they don&#039;t play consistant minutes every game, this team is going to win 1 and lose 2 on consistant basis. Camby &amp; Kaman  shouldn&#039;t be playing more than 30 mpg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to scout for budding talents everywhere. Clippers should spend more money on this front. Make a short list of most talented players and follow them. It involves hard work but rewarding during the season.</p>
<p>Dunleavy should find more minutes to Smith, DeAndre and Telfair. If they don&#8217;t play consistant minutes every game, this team is going to win 1 and lose 2 on consistant basis. Camby &amp; Kaman  shouldn&#8217;t be playing more than 30 mpg.</p>
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		<title>By: jgroove</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgroove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually NEED a real 2 (though Johnson can play the 3).  Gordon is a fine 3 point shooter, but he&#039;s pretty one dimensional.  He&#039;s not fast enough to consistently score in the paint (how many lay ups have we seen him miss even in his &quot;good&quot; games?).  Johnson would be a godsend, but the point is with the lower salary cap NONE of these premier free agents are really going anywhere. The difference between what they can make on their current teams and what the &quot;cap ready&quot; teams can offer is huge at this point.  If the economy and cap hadn&#039;t crashed?  Maybe we&#039;d have a story.  Perhaps Bosh will split Canada because he&#039;d like to live in the states again full time, but they money may be too hard to say no to.

Here&#039;s the thing with Kaman. It&#039;s clear that he can only deliver on one side of the ball at a time.  His offensive numbers are fantastic this year, but they are because he&#039;s providing less effort on the defensive side (cough, Carlos Boozer...).  I&#039;m a huge Blake fan, but if anyone thinks he&#039;s coming in and providing more than 10 and 8 for the first few months or so they are dreaming.  This will not be the preseason and he&#039;ll be coming off an injury where he hasn&#039;t played in almost two months.  Reality folks.

Chemistry is not psychological. Some of the happiest and friendly teams have had the worst on court chemistry and some of the most bickering and at their throats squads have been NBA champs (or at least conference champs). 

If we stay at this 7-10, 20-30 clip I really think management needs to at least trade Camby (classy vet and all) to get more talent.  Everyone talks about how &quot;deep&quot; this bench is, but it&#039;s really not.  They are all one-dimensional players.  We need more guys who can create their own shot, shoot, score and rebound.  It&#039;s scary when Memphis has more of those guys than we do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually NEED a real 2 (though Johnson can play the 3).  Gordon is a fine 3 point shooter, but he&#8217;s pretty one dimensional.  He&#8217;s not fast enough to consistently score in the paint (how many lay ups have we seen him miss even in his &#8220;good&#8221; games?).  Johnson would be a godsend, but the point is with the lower salary cap NONE of these premier free agents are really going anywhere. The difference between what they can make on their current teams and what the &#8220;cap ready&#8221; teams can offer is huge at this point.  If the economy and cap hadn&#8217;t crashed?  Maybe we&#8217;d have a story.  Perhaps Bosh will split Canada because he&#8217;d like to live in the states again full time, but they money may be too hard to say no to.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing with Kaman. It&#8217;s clear that he can only deliver on one side of the ball at a time.  His offensive numbers are fantastic this year, but they are because he&#8217;s providing less effort on the defensive side (cough, Carlos Boozer&#8230;).  I&#8217;m a huge Blake fan, but if anyone thinks he&#8217;s coming in and providing more than 10 and 8 for the first few months or so they are dreaming.  This will not be the preseason and he&#8217;ll be coming off an injury where he hasn&#8217;t played in almost two months.  Reality folks.</p>
<p>Chemistry is not psychological. Some of the happiest and friendly teams have had the worst on court chemistry and some of the most bickering and at their throats squads have been NBA champs (or at least conference champs). </p>
<p>If we stay at this 7-10, 20-30 clip I really think management needs to at least trade Camby (classy vet and all) to get more talent.  Everyone talks about how &#8220;deep&#8221; this bench is, but it&#8217;s really not.  They are all one-dimensional players.  We need more guys who can create their own shot, shoot, score and rebound.  It&#8217;s scary when Memphis has more of those guys than we do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Baron Davis can own this team on the court, Dunleavy can steer this team to perform well.&quot; 

a big &quot;if&quot;! in fact, that question will be the critical one as to whether the Baron Davis era is successful.

Other than Lebron, what are the F options? Bosh will probably stay in Toronto, Joe Johnson is a 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Baron Davis can own this team on the court, Dunleavy can steer this team to perform well.&#8221; </p>
<p>a big &#8220;if&#8221;! in fact, that question will be the critical one as to whether the Baron Davis era is successful.</p>
<p>Other than Lebron, what are the F options? Bosh will probably stay in Toronto, Joe Johnson is a 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAKE SOME NOISE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAKE SOME NOISE!</p>
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		<title>By: rbm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7-10 record is not too bad. Gordon missed several games+ Blake is yet to play his first game.

With Gordon, this team can sustain its record at .500. With Blake it can improve even greater.

If Baron Davis can own this team on the court, Dunleavy can steer this team to perform well.  He has enough talent around him. The return of Griffin can change everything.

This team can win 45+ games this season if Griffin &amp; Gordon stay healthy.
To keep our playoff hopes alive, we need to do better than Sacramento, San Antonio, Memphis, OKC and NOH. To attract &#039;A&#039; list free agent next season we need to do well this season. LeBron wants to win. Between NY &amp; LA, he might chose LA. And Sterling will do everything to get him here. A monster season by Griffin can sway LeBron more than $120 million contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7-10 record is not too bad. Gordon missed several games+ Blake is yet to play his first game.</p>
<p>With Gordon, this team can sustain its record at .500. With Blake it can improve even greater.</p>
<p>If Baron Davis can own this team on the court, Dunleavy can steer this team to perform well.  He has enough talent around him. The return of Griffin can change everything.</p>
<p>This team can win 45+ games this season if Griffin &amp; Gordon stay healthy.<br />
To keep our playoff hopes alive, we need to do better than Sacramento, San Antonio, Memphis, OKC and NOH. To attract &#8216;A&#8217; list free agent next season we need to do well this season. LeBron wants to win. Between NY &amp; LA, he might chose LA. And Sterling will do everything to get him here. A monster season by Griffin can sway LeBron more than $120 million contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chemistry &amp; psychological sort of overlap...I think Kaman is fine, you just can&#039;t win on a consistent basis if he is your #1 option. trading him would be a mistake. He is a good center in his prime. Camby is near the end of the road. We need a new coach who is going to motivate the players better or another veteran who is going to be a leader. you are right, we are stuck with BD, but even with his flaws he should be good enough to lead this team to the playoffs as an 8th seed. We are not talking about winning the championship here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chemistry &amp; psychological sort of overlap&#8230;I think Kaman is fine, you just can&#8217;t win on a consistent basis if he is your #1 option. trading him would be a mistake. He is a good center in his prime. Camby is near the end of the road. We need a new coach who is going to motivate the players better or another veteran who is going to be a leader. you are right, we are stuck with BD, but even with his flaws he should be good enough to lead this team to the playoffs as an 8th seed. We are not talking about winning the championship here.</p>
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		<title>By: jgroove</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree, 32 is it. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s psychological though, I just don&#039;t think they have good chemistry together. I give credit for BD doing his best, but either he or Kaman has to go -- it&#039;s just not a good combo.  At this point, I&#039;d trade Kaman for a strong 3 and take our chances with Camby/Griffin and DJ.  Plus, who on earth would take BD?  Maybe the Knicks in the summer when ever free agent spurns them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree, 32 is it. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s psychological though, I just don&#8217;t think they have good chemistry together. I give credit for BD doing his best, but either he or Kaman has to go &#8212; it&#8217;s just not a good combo.  At this point, I&#8217;d trade Kaman for a strong 3 and take our chances with Camby/Griffin and DJ.  Plus, who on earth would take BD?  Maybe the Knicks in the summer when ever free agent spurns them?</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was awesome ..mj blazers shrug for al .. Nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was awesome ..mj blazers shrug for al .. Nice!</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny post, D.J. Being a Clipper fan requires an ironic sense of humor and you got it. Faker fans definitely DO NOT get it. They are too busy timing their desperate jumps on and off the cheesy purple and gold bandwagon. Meanwhile Clipper fans bleed red, white and blue no matter what the record. 

 This team is seriously flawed psychologically. I love BD as a person but he is not a great leader. Unless Blake is the second coming of Tim Duncan I think 32 wins is the ceiling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny post, D.J. Being a Clipper fan requires an ironic sense of humor and you got it. Faker fans definitely DO NOT get it. They are too busy timing their desperate jumps on and off the cheesy purple and gold bandwagon. Meanwhile Clipper fans bleed red, white and blue no matter what the record. </p>
<p> This team is seriously flawed psychologically. I love BD as a person but he is not a great leader. Unless Blake is the second coming of Tim Duncan I think 32 wins is the ceiling.</p>
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