Comments on: Bull Market http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/ Dissecting the Side-Screen Roll Since 2006 Wed, 23 May 2012 12:21:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: bongstradamus http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29710 bongstradamus Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:43:13 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29710 If we're packaging, it should be Camby and Davis and Thornton and Kaman. If we could move all 4 of those contracts we'd be able to sign a ton of talent. Camby and Davis we could send to Houston for TMacs deal ($22m) and have that off our books next season and retain his rights. Fat chance TMac gets another max deal next year though and personally dont even want him, but if you can move Barons deal... We could also move Camby and Davis to Philly for Elton and Dalembert, but then we are exposed at the point and packed in the paint and theres really no cap available for next year. Thornton and Kaman ($14M roughly) could be spent getting Joe Johnson before trade deadline (and retaining Bird rights) or any other player in that range. Or we could trade Al and Chris to Memphis for Rudy Gay and one of their bad deals (Markos $8M) to make the difference up. Going for Gay who is QO next year could make sense, wed be in the drivers seat and could match anything offered and pray to the Gods other owners are as cheap as ours. One thing on our side is the trade exceptions we still meaning we can absorb more in contracts on any potential trade before the trade deadline. We can take someones bad deal as a sweetener. If we’re packaging, it should be Camby and Davis and Thornton and Kaman. If we could move all 4 of those contracts we’d be able to sign a ton of talent.

Camby and Davis we could send to Houston for TMacs deal ($22m) and have that off our books next season and retain his rights. Fat chance TMac gets another max deal next year though and personally dont even want him, but if you can move Barons deal… We could also move Camby and Davis to Philly for Elton and Dalembert, but then we are exposed at the point and packed in the paint and theres really no cap available for next year.

Thornton and Kaman ($14M roughly) could be spent getting Joe Johnson before trade deadline (and retaining Bird rights) or any other player in that range. Or we could trade Al and Chris to Memphis for Rudy Gay and one of their bad deals (Markos $8M) to make the difference up. Going for Gay who is QO next year could make sense, wed be in the drivers seat and could match anything offered and pray to the Gods other owners are as cheap as ours.

One thing on our side is the trade exceptions we still meaning we can absorb more in contracts on any potential trade before the trade deadline. We can take someones bad deal as a sweetener.

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]]> By: J-Luggy http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29709 J-Luggy Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:36:26 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29709 Wouldn't think trading Kaman's contract would be a good idea unless you could get a legit low-post threat. $10 mil for a true 5 that's productive is far from a bad contract. Any team looking to shed salary for next year is not going to take on longer contracts. Any teal looking for Camby's talents in a playoff run is not likely to want to give up someone from their core. Everyone is banking on 2010, but giving up the farm for a lotto ticket is risky in my opinion. The Clips are in good position for a good pickup in free agency as is, although LBJ seems like a long shot whether Sterling can offer him a max contract or not. Wouldn’t think trading Kaman’s contract would be a good idea unless you could get a legit low-post threat. $10 mil for a true 5 that’s productive is far from a bad contract. Any team looking to shed salary for next year is not going to take on longer contracts. Any teal looking for Camby’s talents in a playoff run is not likely to want to give up someone from their core. Everyone is banking on 2010, but giving up the farm for a lotto ticket is risky in my opinion. The Clips are in good position for a good pickup in free agency as is, although LBJ seems like a long shot whether Sterling can offer him a max contract or not.

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]]> By: VH http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29705 VH Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:13:56 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29705 I think the idea that we can "dump" a few bench players is a lot harder than it seems. Everyone wants to do that, nobody wants to take them. Dunleavy has done a very good job recently moving unwanted contracts but as the 2010 FA period looms closer it will be harder and harder to dump anyone. I think the idea that we can “dump” a few bench players is a lot harder than it seems. Everyone wants to do that, nobody wants to take them. Dunleavy has done a very good job recently moving unwanted contracts but as the 2010 FA period looms closer it will be harder and harder to dump anyone.

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]]> By: VH http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29703 VH Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:11:39 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29703 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312837 this article from the summer said 50MM was the low of the low expectation. have you heard more recent news indicating that this is likely? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312837

this article from the summer said 50MM was the low of the low expectation. have you heard more recent news indicating that this is likely?

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]]> By: Roy http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29694 Roy Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:50:45 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29694 I'm glad I'm not the GM...Damned if you do, damned if you don't...I don't even want to think about Lebron....I'd settle for D Wade though! Dunleavy needs to fire himself and hire Lucas as the coach and remain the GM. If sterling was smart, he'd pay whatever the luxury tax is to get lebron and then some. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity! Give him whatever he wants, new coach? Done! New uni's? done! Rename the staples center, Lebron's Kingdom? Done! This is a chance to turn the franchise around for good! With a good young core, they can go deep in the playoffs even in the west! WoW! I can't be the only one thinking this, right? I mean look at the yankees. They overpay but they have world series to show for it...I think that the luxury tax stuff will be recouped with one or two championships in the biggest market in the NBA. Can you imagine the marketing opportuniutes? the LA vs LA rivalry with Kobe? OMG, those hallway series would be on TV on xmas day every year! Am I out of my mind, here? C'mon Sterling! For once in your life take a chance and open the wallet! I’m glad I’m not the GM…Damned if you do, damned if you don’t…I don’t even want to think about Lebron….I’d settle for D Wade though! Dunleavy needs to fire himself and hire Lucas as the coach and remain the GM. If sterling was smart, he’d pay whatever the luxury tax is to get lebron and then some. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity! Give him whatever he wants, new coach? Done! New uni’s? done! Rename the staples center, Lebron’s Kingdom? Done! This is a chance to turn the franchise around for good! With a good young core, they can go deep in the playoffs even in the west! WoW! I can’t be the only one thinking this, right? I mean look at the yankees. They overpay but they have world series to show for it…I think that the luxury tax stuff will be recouped with one or two championships in the biggest market in the NBA. Can you imagine the marketing opportuniutes? the LA vs LA rivalry with Kobe? OMG, those hallway series would be on TV on xmas day every year! Am I out of my mind, here? C’mon Sterling! For once in your life take a chance and open the wallet!

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]]> By: clos831 http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29661 clos831 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:38:41 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29661 my question to you is can the Clips trade off a few bench players like Skinner, R. Davis, Telfair, Smith for a solid big SF like a Melo or Lebron caliber along with a solid PF to backup Griffin? Telfair isn't really a good point, Smith i like him at times but makes completely dumb mistakes, and the other guys are really not great or put to use my question to you is can the Clips trade off a few bench players like Skinner, R. Davis, Telfair, Smith for a solid big SF like a Melo or Lebron caliber along with a solid PF to backup Griffin?

Telfair isn’t really a good point, Smith i like him at times but makes completely dumb mistakes, and the other guys are really not great or put to use

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]]> By: Clipper jeff http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29641 Clipper jeff Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:41:06 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29641 DJ can beast. It was evident in summer league as well as the preseason. Patience is a virtue...one all clips fans know a little too well. But I think it would be the wrong move to quit on him too soon. DJ can beast. It was evident in summer league as well as the preseason. Patience is a virtue…one all clips fans know a little too well. But I think it would be the wrong move to quit on him too soon.

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]]> By: Lou http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29635 Lou Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:34:51 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29635 Good post RG. DJ needs at least one full playing year. DL did not rob anybody taking him in the second round. Good post RG. DJ needs at least one full playing year. DL did not rob anybody taking him in the second round.

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]]> By: Trapp http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29629 Trapp Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:15:49 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29629 Thanks. That pretty much confirms what I was already figuring. Thanks. That pretty much confirms what I was already figuring.

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]]> By: James http://clipperblog.com/2009/12/14/bull-market/comment-page-1/#comment-29628 James Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:12:39 +0000 http://clipperblog.com/?p=4056#comment-29628 If we were to sign LeBron, It gives Baron, Gordon, Lebron, Blake, Kaman, Thornton...I think we could do a boston celtics and pick up a few veteran minimums to round out the roster, who wouldn't want to play with those guys. If we were to sign LeBron, It gives Baron, Gordon, Lebron, Blake, Kaman, Thornton…I think we could do a boston celtics and pick up a few veteran minimums to round out the roster, who wouldn’t want to play with those guys.

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