Bill Simmons’ annual trade machine column coming out yesterday was a nifty early Christmas present. I’ve always been a huge geek for this sort of thing, ever since video games entered (and subsequently ruined) my life all those years ago. My brother and I used to play the Madden series somewhat religiously, except we would never really, uh, play. We’d draft, make millions of trades with each other, and spend hours on free agency, but rarely ever would we play an actual game. So yeah, I’m that guy, and I imagine Bill Simmons is as well.
It’s really no surprise that Simmons’ trade scenario for the Clips revolves around Marcus Camby, who has sort of become the giant elephant in the room at this point. We’ve previously discussed what makes Camby so valuable, but we’ve barely touched on what the Clippers should expect in return for him, if they choose to move him at all. Let’s look at some of the different options:
Option One: Don’t Trade Camby
There’s a common perception regarding expiring contracts around the league, and that perception is that an expiring contract is useless unless it’s included in a trade that nets something in return. Letting a player “walk for nothing” is typically frowned upon, but shouldn’t cap space become paramount with the best free agent class ever looming? While cap space may only have value in capable hands, there’s still no better time to gamble than next summer.
Remember when Corey Maggette was on the last year of his contract? The Clippers chose to play it out and essentially let him “walk for nothing”. The only thing is, that nothing eventually turned into Marcus Camby, who was acquired from Denver with the available cap space for a couple of jock straps. By not panicking and making a trade, the Clippers netted an elite defender and shot blocker instead of being stuck with whatever measly compensation they could have got in a Maggette trade. Just look at what the Thunder were just able to accomplish with their cap space recently. Simply by having the financial capability to take on the remainder of Matt Harpring’s contract, the Thunder were able to net a promising rookie point guard in Eric Maynor for practically free. With the salary cap and team revenues headed south, the amount of teams in the league who are cash strapped is only going to grow. Even if the Clippers strike out completely in free agency, they’d possibly be able to use that cap space to absorb a contract and pick up a piece via trade. If Marcus Camby never gets traded, the Clippers don’t lose his value – it just changes form.
But would keeping Camby result in a logjam in the front-court? It certainly doesn’t have to. Chris Kaman has been playing 7 minutes over his career average per game and has been dragging late in games all year. He could stand to have 7 minutes shaved off his per game average. Marcus Camby is 35 years old and is also playing more minutes than his career average. He could probably sacrifice 5 minutes. Craig Smith has talent, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world if he rarely played. He’s averaging 14 minutes a game that could essentially all go to Griffin. Dunleavy has also made it clear he’d like to play Griffin some at small forward, which is probably good for another 7 minutes, at least. Add it all up and you get 33 minutes, which is more than enough for a rookie coming off major knee surgery. Remember, close to every season the Clippers expect to have a “logjam” somewhere. How often does everyone stay completely healthy and those logjam fears materialize? Marcus Camby and Chris Kaman haven’t played a full 82 games once in a combined 19 seasons. I think we’re safe from a logjam.
Option Two: Trade Camby For Other Expiring Contracts
Since Marcus Camby is one of the more appealing expiring contracts, wouldn’t it be easy to flip him for a combination of other expiring contracts? That’s essentially what Simmons proposes in his column, where he builds a trade that nets the Clippers a young European prospect in Victor Claver along with the expiring deals of Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. It’s a fine trade, Korolev comparisons aside, because the Clippers gain a prospect and keep all the cap space. Could the Clippers get more than just Victor Claver? Probably, but the self-proclaimed VP of Common Sense still makes a lot of sense here. Camby is going to be coveted, and the Clippers could be able to pick up some prospects or draft picks in exchange. I fired up the trade machine myself to do some exploring of my own:
Thunder Receive: Marcus Camby (9mil/1yr)
Clippers Receive: Etan Thomas (7.9mil/1yr), Rights to Phoenix’s 2010 first round draft pick
Why the Thunder would do it: If the Thunder are in the playoff race, a trade for Camby could really help push them to a new level. Maybe they’d be reluctant to make the move for fear of stunting Serge Ibaka’s growth, but the potential playoff success would probably outweigh that. The Phoenix pick is also going to be a late first rounder, so the value on that selection isn’t as high as it sounds, and the last time I checked Oklahoma City isn’t exactly strapped for 2010 draft picks.
Why the Clippers would do it: It’s important to mention this caveat: The Clippers would likely only move Camby if they were out of the hunt. This particular trade is very similar to the Simmons deal, except the Clippers don’t have the stress of dealing with Steve Blake and they get to hand pick their own prospect.
Cavaliers Receive: Marcus Camby (9.1m/1yr) and Rasual Butler (3.9m/1yr)
Clippers Receive: Zydraunas Ilgauskas (11.5/1yr), 2011 1st round pick
Why the Cavaliers would do it: Cleveland is clearly in full blown win now mode. Marcus Camby is a mobile big who would fit much better alongside Shaq, Varejao and Hickson. If LeBron stays, the 1st round pick in 2011 doesn’t matter. If he leaves, well, they’re screwed anyway, so might as well put your eggs in one basket and try and win a championship. I actually think this is the best strategy for them. LeBron can’t leave if he wins a title, right?
Why the Clippers would do it: It’s a gamble, but it’s one that comes with no risk. Trading Camby is essentially chalking up the season anyway, so the Clippers might as well shoot for the stars and try to land what could be a top 10 pick if LeBron bolts town.
Option Three: Trade For A Locked Up Piece
Option three is the most dangerous, because the Clippers would completely pull themselves out of the running for a free agent. How good of a player would the Clippers need to justify tossing away 9 million dollars in cap space and committing themselves to someone long term? We can likely assume the Clippers wouldn’t target any position but Small Forward, so who is good enough at that spot to warrant trade consideration?
Bulls Receive: Marcus Camby (9.1m/1yr)
Clippers Receive: Luol Deng (60m/5yr)
Why the Bulls would do it: The opportunity to recruit Wade and Bosh to team with Rose. That’s one heck of a core.
Why the Clippers would do it: The lengthy contract is frightening, but Deng would be a great fit and would permanently fill the small forward gap in Los Angeles. Is Deng a superstar? No. But he does provide a rare combination: He’s a proven commodity, but still young at age 24.
Wizards Receive: Marcus Camby (9.1m/1yr), 2011 first round pick
Clippers Receive: Caron Butler (20m/2yr)
Why the Wizards would do it: Washington is in a weird spot. Clearly this trio is no longer championship material, so what do they do? If the Wizards moved Jamison and Butler, they’d clear up 23 million in salary next year alone. It’s hard to tell if they’re going to go down that path, but picking up cap space and a first rounder would be a decent return on Butler.
Why the Clippers would do it: Caron is a gifted scorer and a tenacious defender, but he turns 30 (!) this March. Would that scare the Clippers away? Probably not. A Baron-Gordon-Caron-Griffin-Kaman starting five would be tough to handle, and the Clippers would finally have their late game scoring option.
If you haven’t checked out the trade machine, I suggest you give it a whirl. Let’s see your best trade ideas in the comments section, and make sure you show your work by linking to your trade. All of mine were fairly simple, but if you try something insane, you might want to provide a visual for the rest of the class. Go have some fun with it.
42 Responses
a) Camby has been the primary consistent player on the Clippers this year.
b) He’s been an important hands on guide to the young Clippers
c) In a team lacking maturity he’s the mature older brother
d) Only functional help for Clippers – Trade Dunleavy, Dump him.
e) Dunleavy’s career rests on a sensational performance once he starts playing by the
very promising Blake Griffin. That’s utterly ridiculous, much to much pressure on
Griffin and Dunleavy no longer knows how to coach or communicate and motivate
the players.
f) I repeat get rid of Dunleavy. No excuse to keep him except that Sterling although he’s
made a fortune on the Clippers although they’re always losers doesn’t want to blow
the millions still due Dunleavy. Note: Sterling always makes terrible deals with his
coaches. Sterling’s business strength is as a bully not shrewd or wise. Can’t read
performance or psychology of players or coaches. He should be spending a fortune
on Clippers right now as at 76 years of age he should be repairing his despicable
legacy. He thinks he’s doing that with his transparent LA Times charity promo ads that
he buys cut rate as a package.
g) Did I mention that Dunleavy must go! If Sterling can’t see it in the Teams erratic
performance this season he needs glasses and a spiritual guide.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
couldn’t agree with plus 15 more. Nothing will help until Dunleavy gone and Sterling too. Unfortunately, when (if) Griffin gets back the boys will win a few more games (but not enough)& we’ll be back to business as usual. Camby is wonderful & a coach on the floor. He must be a saint because he never seems to get pissed off at the absurdities going on around him. Maybe he & Sam Cassell should be named co-coaches since they’re the most professional & savvy guys who have ever been associated with this hapless organization. Bah Humbug to “The Donald of L.A” & his estimable staff.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Stick to the topic please… endless Dunleavy rants are boring and useless. I like the Caron Butler trade idea. That would be a good move bringing a proven closer to the 4th quarter meltdowns. I looked at quite a few trades but couldn’t do better the DJ has already with the simple trade ideas.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Breath of fresh air – I’m glad other people find the Dunleavy rants more than a little repetitive.
Chris McDougall Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
You’re not the only one.
Honestly I’d be surprised if Camby gets traded. Option 1 seems the most feasible. I’m still quite the newbie when it comes to following basketball in the season, but there seems to be more than enough minutes go around for their big men once Griffin comes in. It would keep them all fresh into the 4th.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Ditto Slax. I like the look of Caron Butler in the mix up. Having Thornton be our 6th man, possibly keeping R. Butler around and investing in some other solid back up players would be a very scary team.
Aside from the Caron trade, the only other option I’d like to see is if we can pick up an all-star free agent in the summer. But again, we’re the Clippers and players don’t get too excited about that.
Having Luong Deng come on for 5 years at 60 million is way too risky of a move in my opinion. Being stuck with such a huge contract is not worth it. We can do a bit better than that.
Interesting read DJ, I really enjoy it when sports journalists explore these plausible trades. Pretty interesting stuff.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
That Deng contract is scary. If he gets hurt, or doesn’t play to his talent level, that’s a lot of money to be stuck with. Those type of contracts can go bad quick and handicap a franchise. I agree that it may be a little too risky.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I kinda like the Deng trade idea, though I still believe in Thornton, he just needs some consistency. He’s actually my favorite Clipper so I feel bad pushing him aside haha. Anyways by trading for Deng, Thornton will know that starter role is gone for him, which is something he doesn’t want to lose by any means. I’d love to keep Al as a 6th man but he’s just not into that idea. He feels he’s a starter and wants to be that guy (which is fine, he can do what he wants). IF that’s the case, then we might need to look into trading Thornton for some bench help.
I like the Butler idea too though he messes with the 2010 FA (as does Deng), not to mention his contract is up the following year and, like D.J. mentioned, he’s already 30. He’ll help us win now but if we’re going to be picking up pieces, I’d rather acquire players who are younger to mold with our core.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
It will be interesting to see if Thornton can eventually accept a bench role. The Clippers get him at such a cheap rate the next few years, and he can be such a productive scorer off the bench. It would be a shame for that scenario to turn sour.
I think you’re right on about acquiring younger players to mold with the core. Blake and Gordon are both under 21 – what’s the rush?
Game Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Thornton is unlikely to accept a backup role until he secures his first non-rookie contract. While ego prevents many players from ever voluntarily accepting a backup role or even fewer minutes, it’s easier to accept it if your multi-year contract is predicated on starter minutes (see Maggette, Corey).
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Both Deng and Butler seem like they would be a good fit on this team. If you would have asked me before this article, I would have guessed Caron to be 26 or 27 tops, I had no idea he was 30.
If I had to vote I’d probably try to keep Camby on and roll on 2010…you explanation of minutes was very helpful DJ.
Some other trades Josh Howard (1y) for Camby… a low-risk trade that probably makes both teams better. Gerald Wallace (3y) would be a kickass addition.
Asperis Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Yeah Wallace would be nice to have. Solid defender, rebounder.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
I audibly gasped when I saw Butler is turning 30. Time just flies by.
Gerald Wallace is amazing, but I don’t see why the Bobcats would want an expiring contract. They’re kinda in cap hell the next 3 years, so the expiring deal doesn’t do much for them except for lower payroll. They couldn’t really turn it into anything.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I would not be surprised if the Clips landed Josh Howard on the cheap next year IF they let Camby’s contract expire. I imagine Joe Johnson will be the primary (realistic) target, but if they strike out there we could see Josh Howard.
Clayton Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 1:59 am
what about rudy gay?? hes a free agent
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 3:31 am
He’ll be a free agent next year, not this offseason. If you’re a fan of Rudy (personally, I don’t think he’s a good fit) than hanging on to Camby til the end of the season is what you’re rooting for.
Maybe take a shot at the big guys, toss some offers around, and if nothing happens wait until next year. The 2011 class is no slouch either.
Clayton Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
i thought he was a restricted fa after this season. so the clips would have to offer him hella money and hope the griz dont match.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Considered some of the trade possibilities for Camby, and not many would be very beneficial to the Clips in the long run. The best trading partner for the Clips by far is the Blazers, due to their unfortunate run of horrific injuries.
Acquiring Outlaw and Blake’s EC plus Bayless from Portland for Camby would be a good move for the Clips. When Portland signed Miller, the franchise signaled that they’re not very high on Bayless – which I think is a big mistake. Bayless is similar to Brooks, and could possibly become a better player because he’s blessed with quickness, size and strength. Trading for him will set up the Clips with a future PG that can be molded to grow with Gordon and Griffin. Salary cap wise, adding Bayless to the team will require the Clips to dump one of their 6 players under contract, which can be accomplished by jettisoning Bassy. From Portland’s perspective, this trade is beneficial in that they receive a proven C who can anchor their D, and not be in the way of LaMarcus on offense. So my trade proposal would be: Outlaw, Blake, Bayless, and the prospect Claver for Camby.
Hypothetically speaking, I would prefer not to trade Camby and let his contract expire. Go for a big name free agent (hopefully land one), and try to resign Camby for the veteran’s minimum. All Clipper jokes aside, LBJ, Joe Johnson, David Lee and Gay would be silly to not consider the Clippers as their next destination. NJ, NY, MIA (and Lebron’s hometown Cavs to a degree) do not come close in terms of a strong supporting cast to play alongside them. If the Clips strike out in landing a big name FA, we can always give cash strapped teams a phone call and relieve them of their financial burden. Charlotte for Gerald Wallace, Washington for Caron Butler, and maybe New Orleans for David West.
Simon Says Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
“Outlaw, Blake, Bayless, and the prospect Claver for Camby”
RL are you out of your mind? have you lost the plot?? a 4 for 1 expiring contract?
Portland is missing all three of their small forwards, they would be giving up two of their 3 point guards and leaving the one, Miller who does not mesh with Roy. They be left with 3 players between the 1 and 2 and no small forwards. In addition to missing both their starting and back up center. Not too mention they would have no reason for resigning Camby with Oden and Przybilla coming back next season.
This trade is absolutely ludicrous. I’m all for being a homer but the trade has to at least benefit both sides no?
RL Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I suppose it all depends on Portland’s stance this season. If they’re calling this season a wash, which is what I would do, then of course trading for Camby is not beneficial. If they are not, their starting SF Batum is on the verge of returning, and they still have Fernandez, and Webster who can both can play SF – so they’re still a bit loaded at the SF. Brandon Roy can also play PG, which he did many times. The trade is actually a 3 for 1 plus a draft prospect playing in Europe who might never be able to make the jump. I could see Portland asking for a bit more than Camby, like adding Al or Bassy to bolster their roster a bit. But ludicrous?… I have to disagree.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I messed around a bit with Portland as well. In my idea, I threw in Nicholas Batum instead of Bayless. So Batum, Blake and Outlaw for Camby. I don’t think the Blazers would do it, just because it would leave them so vulnerable at small forward and they love Batum. Who knows though…they may be desperate.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Camby is one of the best rebounders in the league currently and has been very active keeping Kaman outta foul trouble with his intimidation around the basket. We need a solid PF while Griffin gets readjusted because I highly doubt he will play as much while he is recovering from his injury. Plus he is a tough minded player that steps up when we need him. This team needs to play together longer before we can hit our stride and Camby fills huge gaps in our defense and does many intangibles. These acquisions seem good on paper but these players have struggled to bring teams together and what we need now is chemistry, which Camby brings. Once griffin is back we can have Camby anchor the bench squad and we wil get a hell of a lot better running and gunning with the starters and locking it down with a solid defensive bench. Give it time people Camby is workin his old ass off show some respect heh
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
That’s the thing with Camby – he’s been by far the best and most consistent player this year. It’s going to be tough to move him, but if the right trade rolls around…
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Did you watch Ilgauskas play yesterday?
LeBron won’t approve trading Z.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I think LeBron would much rather have Shaq out of town, but they kinda hitched their wagon to him. Don’t see them trading the big fella.
I think LeBron would be A-Ok with having Camby dominate the glass and the defensive end. Plus, Camby is a great passer. I’m not sure who wouldn’t want to play with the guy.
On the flip side, how “fun” would a Griffin, Kaman, Ilgauskas front-court be? Ugh.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
i think that we need to forget about the dream of lebron signing with the clippers. the odds are greatly against that happening. i don’t see lebron going to a team with a established pg ike baron. lebron COULD be playing in cleveland as the SF, but instead he plays point-forward, always needing the ball in his hands at the start of every possesion. i just can’t see him being on a team where he doesn’t has a solid core around him and not getting the ball every time down. don’t get me wrong, i believe he would bolster the status of the clippers, but i’m very skeptical of what having him on the team would do to the star-player development of blake and eric.
that being said, other that joe johnson and josh “reefer” howard, what other 2010 FA SF’s will there be that the clippers can target to be the solid SF we need? i’m not sure if clips should gamble by not making a camby trade to get a solid SF this season. i wouldn’t want deng, but caron butler would be a great trade in my mind. sure he turns 30, but at that age we will still get at least 4 solid seasons from him. And these next 4 seasons are very important in being able to retain blake and not seeing him walking into unrestricted free agency because clippers can’t get to the playoffs.
as much as we like to think about getting young players right now to build up the team, we should also think about getting solid veterans like caron to be able to maintain the core players we already have (i.e., EJ, blake, kaman…). if we don’t start winning, then why would eric and blake want to stick around?
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
“If we don’t start winning, then why would eric and blake want to stick around?”
Excellent, excellent point.
Bongstradamus Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Rudy freaking Gay. Given our chances at other talent I’d have hum near the top of our list. Heck I think it would worth trading for him before the season ends just to get him on restricted free agency and see where the market values him. JJ is likely staying in ATL or going to dantoni. Bosh is probably Miami bound and Wade has no reason to move at all
Josh Howard isn’t worth targeting. I’d rather throw a deal at Childress just to mess with ATL while they try to retain JJ on a reduced cap
Mike W Reply:
December 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
For all of the fans who would like to see the Clips get a Luol Deng, Rudy Gay, etc. “if we don’t start winning, why would eric and blake want to stick around?”
I believe the Clips’ rights to Gordon run through the 2012 season, Blake through 2013. The Clips can’t afford to make new 3+ year commitments to anyone between now and 2012. Davis making big money, Kamen under long-term contract, and you want to reserve $s for your young nucleus. Plus, the cap will be lower next year. I think option 1 may be the best option because there will likely be some good players out there next summer willing to play under 2 or 3 year contracts. Or, if you trade Camby, get expiring contracts back.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I don’t like the Deng idea.
His contract is huge and i don’t think he really fits the Clippers. I’d want a SF that can shoot, cause i think we need someone else besides Gordon to space the floor for Kaman and Griffin. And Deng just can’t shoot and scores on drives to the basket or even while posting up some.
Butler is a nice idea and maybe available, thanks to the Wizards bad start to the season.
I don’t like trading with the Cavs for just some 1st round pick, as i expect Lebron to re-sign.
The Thunder deal isn’t that bad, as it would net us a pick somewhere around #25.
Though, if we’re out of the playoff picture, i’d look to trade Camby to San Antonio. They’ve shown before that they value guys like him and aren’t afraid to give up something to get them. Also him and Duncan would be a nice defensive combo at the 4/5 spots.
Maybe they would go for something like this.
Camby, Skinner, Telfair
for
Bonner, Finley, Mason, Hill, 1st Round Pick
They get a great vet in Camby and could challenge the Lakers, while we get a late first and promising point guard George Hill.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
George Hill is sneaky, sneaky good from what I’ve been able to see of him.
Would the Spurs be willing to part with Hill and Mason for Camby? Interesting to think about. Good trade.
Asperis Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Last season we had Hill on the table with someone else (forgot who, but no one good) for Marcus Camby.
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
I think simmons is spot on. He’s a jerk sometimes when it comes to the Clippers, but he’s usually right. I’m starting to hear that the cap is not go be as low as projected. If we trade Kaman for expiring contracts, plus move either Bassy or Thornton, we can be close to having room for 2 max contracts. I think Lebron would be more inclined to come to the Clippers if we go after him and Bosh. Rumors are Bosh wants to join a team with another superstar.I know other teams like the knicks for example will try to go after 2 max contract superstars, but they won’t have a cast like the Clippers to offer. Gordon and Griffin + Lebron and Bosh with Baron at the point. How can ANY team make a better offer than that? We would have to get a new coach most likely though!
Posted on December 24th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Kareem Rush, Rasual Butler, Craig Smith
to the Golden State Warriors for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph (TPE)
Clippers eight man rotation until Blake returns:
Kaman/Camby/Maggette/Gordon/Baron
Bench: Randolph/Thornton/Telfair
Posted on December 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Golden State wouldn’t give away Randolph for some Scrubs even if we take Maggette’s horrible contract off their hands. Plus that trade would take up all our cap space and wouldn’t really make us that much better. Randolph and Griffin play the same position.
D.J. Foster Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Anthony Randolph is insulted that you think Anthony Randolph can only play one position. Anthony Randolph plays no position AND every position AT THE SAME TIME. Anthony Randolph requested David Stern to create a new position for Anthony Randolph, but Anthony Randolph haven’t heard back yet.
(What…? I’m the only one who secretly wishes Anthony Randolph talks like Rickey Henderson?)
Posted on December 25th, 2009 at 12:52 am
i don’t understand why so many people on here think that trading kaman for an expiring contract is a solution. If kaman is traded, who is there to play the center position?? In the extreme hypothetical situation that we have room for 2 max contracts, as copy and paste suggests, bosh is NOT a center in this league. He’s a PF. Kaman has been a top center in the entire nba this year. What sense does it make to give him up for a crap shoot at 2max players, neither of which is a center?? Skilled centers are at a premium. And with camby gone after this season whether he’s traded or rided out, it makes even less sense to let kaman go. DJ, can you talk some sense into these people?
A championship contending team is a team that is well rounded and deep. Giving up a star center and any asset interesting to other teams with EC’s would not solve anything. If 2max type players signed, there would be no salary room to have a decent bench, leaving us in the same position of crumbling after one important player gets injured.
everybody is so excited about the 2010 summer of free agency that people want to do rash moves just to have money to OFFER. but once lebron re-signs, and bosh moves to miami, everyteam is going to be panicking to re-sign the players they had because the strategy didn’t work to land lebron (i.e., knicks).
Pez Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I think the idea is that DeAndre would play the position. I agree with you though, no sense in giving Kaman away just because he’s goofy and white.
I would like to see DeAndre get more minutes though…he needs to be given a chance to develop while he still wears a clippers uniform.
kenji Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 10:51 am
i’d like to see deandre get more minutes also. but not at the expense of a foolish move trading kaman for a crap shoot lebron signing. moving camby for a caron would free up minutes for deandre to develop without losing a #1 center.
but i like that there is at least somebody else out there other than me who’s lobbying to see deandre get PT.
Mike Wr Reply:
December 26th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Repeat after me, DeAndre Jordan is NOT ready to be part of an NBA team’s normal rotation. It takes time for a big man to mature and be successful in the NBA. Let’s give him time and be patient. He would be a junior in college if he hadn’t come out early.
Posted on December 25th, 2009 at 4:59 am
Some rumors around the family that Lebron had mentioned on a broadcast or telecast that he “wouldn’t mind playing in los angeles next year”. Anybody else hear this and where did it come from??
Posted on December 25th, 2009 at 9:34 am
there will be no log jam. someone else will get hurt. always do
Posted on December 26th, 2009 at 10:53 am
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