From Ric Bucher’s Twitter:
“Source says Clippers have dealt Marcus Camby for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. Details and deeper confirmation to follow on the mothership.”
Here’s how the trade looks, assuming (most likely incorrectly) that there are no other moving parts involved. According to The Oregonion and Rotoworld.com, Outlaw is optimistically pegged to return to action (foot surgery) later this month. Outlaw averaged 9.9 points and 3.5 rebounds in 21 minutes a game before falling to injury 11 games into the season. Journeyman Steve Blake has been one of the few Blazers to stay healthy for the full year and has averaged 7.6 points and 4 assists in 27 minutes a game. Both players are on contracts that expire this season.
UPDATE: This trade has not yet been made official. The inclusion of cash going to the Clippers has now been mentioned by various sources. The Clippers will retain the Bird Rights to both Outlaw and Blake once their contracts expire.
A few things to keep in mind:
- If the trade stands as currently constructed, the Clippers roster will be over the limit at 16 players, all of which are on guaranteed contracts. This could mean there is another trade in the works, or more realistically that someone will be bought out of their contract or waived.
- The Clippers did not hold the bird rights to Marcus Camby (Ed Note: Please see below). If this trade goes through, they will hold the Bird Rights for both Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake for next Summer.
- The details are still fuzzy, but the Clippers stand to make money off the trade even if cash is not directly included in the deal.
Check back for more details as they become available.
Ed Note: The Clippers actually do have the Bird Rights for Marcus Camby, but they would be unlikely to exercise them. Unless the Clippers renounced the the rights to Camby, they likely wouldn’t have the room to make a max offer. You can read more on Bird Rights here.
49 Responses
If this is true, we could have done better… trading an expiring for two expirings does not make sense… but then again, I’m not a GM.. so I’ll keep my mouth shut
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
If true this would b a terrible tradefor us
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
whoa.. you guys added face emoticons… nice
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Nice. Camby goes where he will make the playoffs, and we get help at the guard. Outlaw’s no slouch either. Thanks Marcus – you were a true pro while you were here.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
No Picks or future assets? I don’t like, but maybe this was th eonly thing out there…I doubt it though….we should have just held on to Camby. Who starts at the 4 now?
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Kaman and DJ in the frontcourt …. if this is the new lineup, guess we can stop and the discussions about the potential of DJ and his playingtime and watch the rest of the season to see if he can handle himself night in and night out
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Bad trade for us, we didn’t even get rid of Thornton or Bassy. Now we have a big hole at the 4 all year until BG comes back and moving Bassy is going to be tough. I’m hoping we unload Bassy in this deal and it just hasn’t been finalized.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
This trade was all about JOHN WALL…cuz the Clips won’t win very many games the rest of this year.
OUCH.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Maybe the clippers read the blogs and were convinced that we had to keep both DJ and Al. This was the only deal out there without giving up either player.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
This isn’t a bad deal. My question are both guys expiring? If they are it’s a good one. Gives the team some help at the wings and if for any reason one of them plays well – maybe we sign them for next year. Blake is an upgrade over Telfair and can start if Baron “quits.” Outlaw is much needed defensive and scoring help at the 3. As for the frontline, well…Kaman’s an All-Star. Let’s hope he can play like it for the rest of the season.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
So we’re just swapping expiring contracts for more expiring contracts and helping Portland out because? Somebody out there make some sense out of this
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
is looks like this deal will increase our cap space next year by 1.3MM (7.6 expiring vs. 8.9 expiring), will that be enough to offer a max deal? to be honest i had given up on them winning this season, and it looks like dunleavy has too.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I’m so confused, Eric Pincus says the deal has more parts and not official yet.
Tomorrow is going to be awkward. At least, the players can just hope onto the other teams flight.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
We traded an expiring contract for 2 expiring contracts, one of which is injured and no picks?
This isnt a good deal. We could have gotten much more for Camby, i dont see much upside to this. Neither of these guys is worth much if we resign them next season.
So instead of holding Camby’s bird rights, we get Outlaws and Blakes?
Q.D. Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Couldn’t we get Rudy Fernandez out of them, at least that.
jgroove Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Fernandez has regressed and isn’t a free agent. He also doesn’t play D. Outlaw does.
D.J. Foster Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Clippers didn’t have Bird Rights on Camby, but if I understand the rule correctly they will with Blake and Outlaw.
bongstradamus Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Thanks for clarifying that DJ, I assumed wed get Camby’s bird rights since hes been here more than 1 season. That would have been nice to use him as a sign and trade in the offseason if nothing worked out before deadline.
Still, I dont like the idea of trading our glue guy for 2 guys that wont be major pieces for the franchise. I think we can get more for Camby.
D.J. Foster Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 1:44 am
Oops. My mistake guys – the Clippers do have the Bird Rights on Camby. Read here for more info http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q29
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
This trade is horrible! Why do we need 2 medicre players for? Shouldve just kept Camby! I’m actually gonna support the FireDunleavy chants now!
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Weird, the link to the trade was up 10 mins ago and now it’s not under headlines for NBA section on ESPN.
Is this trade official or pulled for speaking too soon?
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
i can’t find the link anymore either …. hmmmm
Q.D. Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
it’s pretty strange
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
I’m still holding out for Batum.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
HORRIBLE!!! The only reason i would’ve justified this trade is if we got a 1st rounder & they took bassy and thorton. What is Dunleavy thinking? is he planning on going back to portland or something?
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=4917644
Story update. Now “may” go to Portland.
“One source close to the situation initially said that the sides had agreed on the deal, but multiple sources later said that the deal was close but not completed. A Clippers source called the talks “substantive.”
Looks like ESPN got ahead of themselves. How Wrap of them (for those in the ent. industry).
Camby says: In a text message to ESPNLosAngeles.com, Camby said that he “hadn’t heard anything about it” from either his agent or the Clippers. He has said that he would prefer to remain in Los Angeles, but he understands why his name continues to come up in trade talks.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Article for Trade on ESPN now changed to “camby MAY be headed to Portland”
“The Los Angeles Clippers were in discussion to trade forward-center Marcus Camby to the Portland Trail Blazers for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake, sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher.
One source close to the situation initially said that the sides had agreed on the deal, but multiple sources later said that the deal was close but not completed. A Clippers source called the talks “substantive.”
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
This is bad. Camby thinks it’s happening.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-cambytrade021510&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
After taking the call, Camby immediately walked out of the restaurant. A source close to him says he is “very upset” about the trade. He had hoped to re-sign with the Clippers this summer.
“He likes the Clippers, he likes the organization, he likes L.A.,” the source said. “His wife is not happy in L.A. And he’s not one for change. He’s definitely not happy about this.”
Camby isn’t the only one angry.
Said one Clipper: “All the guys are upset because our best defensive player got traded basically for a backup point guard and money.”
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I think you guys are missing the big picture here. We’re giving up ONE expiring contract for TWO in return. Dunleavy has made it clear many times that he wants the Clippers to be “players” in the 2010 sweepstakes. Whether we have a chance at landing a player via trade or during the off-season all depends on how Dunleavy works his “magic”. Either way, I think this is a good trade, We gain 1.3 mil.in cap relief and the trade deadline isn’t officially done until Thursday. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a move for an even bigger move that’s to come. All we’re doing is gaining “trade bait” to either make more moves or to have more cap space. So this leaves us with, C Smith, Butler, Camby/or Outlaw,Blake, Telfair(maybe), SKinner, Novak, and B. Brown. as expiring contracts… Not bad! Anyways, we won’t be making any more noise for the rest of the season.
James Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
This trade saves us no money, Camby’s contract is greater then Blake and Outlaws combined, we would have had the same amount of cap relief regardless, we needed to trade camby for an expiring and a pick of some sort
D.J. Foster Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Outlaw and Blake won’t be able to be traded again this year. Their value lies in their expiring contracts exclusively.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
wtf how does this help us ? we could have at least dumped s. telfair. I guess this is dunleavys sick way of getting revenge.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
@First2One00 – We don’t get any cap relief from this, all three guys are off the books. We would only get cap relief if someone with a contract BEYOND this year was included (namely Thornton and Telfair). The way this deal went down, the only benefactor is Sterling as the Blazers are giving them cash. We still have the same number of guaranteed contracts, only now we’ve lost one of our most valuable trade assets that we could have bundled together with Thornton or Bassy so we could offer a max contract in the summer. Dumping Bassy would have been ideal as I believe Thornton has a reasonable contract and could have been dumped for a conditional 2nd rounder to a team looking for cheap younger talent.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
I don’t like the trade either, Charles. But it is a fact that the Clips do NOT have Bird rights to Canby and the end of the season. They WOULD have Bird rights to Blake and Outlaw. The combination of Blake and Outlaw earn more salary than Canby does this year. So the Clips will have an extra $1.5 – $2 million to spend on a free agent this summer if this deal goes through.
My concern is that even if the Clips are loaded with cap space to spend on a free agent this summer, who (besides LeBron) would they chase? If they sign Wade or Johnson, what are they going to do with EG? I’d like to see them make Rudy Gay such a huge offer that the Griz can’t match it
Then, they’d start next season with a starting lineup of Griffin & Gay at the forward spots, Kamen at center plus Baron and Gordon in the backcourt. Not bad.
First2One00 Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 12:07 am
I guess this is what I was trying to get at. Thanks for the corrections you guys made on my comment, I think the ONLY player that would be worth chasing during the off season is probably R. Gay. Only because he seems to be the best Fit at this point and I don’t think he’d mind coming to LA.. ANother thing that I noticed is M. Camby saying he’d prefer to stay in LA, I believe him on that, he reminds me of Cuttino Mobley after that playoff run the Clippers sort of “grew” on him. Who knows, there might be a possibility that Camby decides to come back and calls it a career in LA.
Charles Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 3:39 am
We do have Bird Rights for Camby. This wasn’t a basketball decision in my opinion, simply a way for DTS to make some more money are our expense. I’m getting close to giving up on this team until Sterling finally dies.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Look guys, with the team in a downward spiral, Dunleavy needed to shake things up a bit before the deadline, and obviously Camby is our most valuable trading chip. As some have suggested, getting someone like Igoudala may have been nice, but highly unlikely. Does anyone not remember how good Outlaw was when healthy? Travis Outlaw is a better player (athletic, great midrange, 3pt, defense) than both Butler and Thornton. He’s not the missing piece at the 3 we all crave, but this guy was one of the top 6th men a few seasons ago. Steve Blake is a far better backup PG than Bassy- good 3pt shooter, decent playmaker. Both are expiring, and maybe we get a pick, cash, or another player when all is said and done. It would make more sense to include Thornton and/or Bassy in the trade, but lets see. DeAndre Jordan will now have the minutes he needs to develop as a player- something that could pay off huge down the road.
Posted on February 15th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
someone not pass the physical?
article now says “may be” dealt…
D.J. Foster Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Nothing has been made official quite yet. Details still being hashed out.
matt Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 12:13 am
what would be the purpose of this trade? i feel like all its doing is ruining team chemistry
kenji Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 12:22 am
i agree. i don’t see the logic to do this trade. i only saw justification in trading camby if we could land caron butler. but since that won’t happen now, i’m shocked that there are serious talks of sending camby to portland for another 2 expiring contracts who may not even re-sign with us.
lets forget about any chance at lebron this summer. the only guys that would be any possibility is gay or joe johnson. but with how strong atlanta is, i don’t see him leaving them. i can see gay leaving memphis, even though they’ve been playing really well lately, for a big contract somewhere else.
D.J. Foster Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Just put a post breaking down some of the pros and cons.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 12:04 am
I like Camby alot but he was kind of an offensive liability, jordan now has a chance to show us if he is worth anything and next year blake will be ready to go.
Charles Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 3:45 am
DJ is much more of a offensive liability at this point. He still has very limited post moves and he’s a dreadful free throw shooter. Teams will start fouling him intentionally instead of giving him the easy layup/dunk and may even use Hack a DJ if they were trying to catch up. I still can’t see how we can’t make the Blazers take Bassy. They have no cap room this off-season anyways and now they acquire a expiring contract they can use in a trade for a player next year (like they did when they signed Andre Miller). Very poor negotiating by the Clippers front office, the Blazers desperately need a big if they want to make it back to the playoffs.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 12:21 am
please don’t let this trade be true! this trade will not help us!
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 1:10 am
Man we got crap back
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 6:58 am
actually some of the Blazers fans are not liking this deal neither
they love Outlaw in Portland so both sides either like this deal or completely hate it
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 9:54 am
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