Arnovitz and Abbott discuss the deal on TrueHoop: Arnovitz: “In that spirit, I’d tell disappointed Clippers fans something else: They’re going to see a lot more of DeAndre Jordan, and I think that’s a good thing. Jordan will take his lumps and occasionally embarrass himself, but his development is vital for the team’s future. The void left by Camby will potentially give Jordan an intensive two-month boot camp as a rotation NBA center. They’ll also see a bit more of the irrepressible Craig Smith, who can score 1-on-1 from the block in bunches.”
Dave from BlazersEdge explains what Camby brings to the table: “Camby will help cement the Blazers into a lower playoff seed, a crucial achievement for this young team. Outlaw and Blake would not have done that. It’s a no-brainer in that sense.”
ESPN’s John Hollinger likes the trade for the Clippers (Insider): “…(The Clippers) don’t come away from this without assets. Steve Blake is a free agent and presumably won’t be back, but having Travis Outlaw’s Bird rights is a worthwhile asset. There is going to be demand for him on the free-agent market and the Clips, at the very least, can include him in a sign-and-trade deal and get something back in return. He might stick around too. Outlaw wants to go somewhere he can get minutes and shots — i.e., not Portland — and L.A. seems as good a place as any right now.
Advanced statistical expert Wayne Winston gives TrueHoop his impressions: “Winston has his own measure of how a player’s performance affects wins — it rewards, for instance, crunch time performance. He calls it Impact. ‘In Impact rating Blake has been great: ninth in League. Camby is 80th. Past two years Blake averaged +3 adjusted plus/minus and Camby +2. Outlaw averaged -1 adjusted plus/minus last two years. I like this trade for both teams because Blake knows how to win games (good impact) and the Clippers need that.’ ”
Kelly Dwyer over at Ball Don’t Lie: “It’s a lazy trade. The trade deadline isn’t until Thursday, and the going rate for a 7-footer who can dominate on one end and hold his own on the other (to say nothing of his rather helpful expiring contract) should be through the roof. Camby should be amongst the most sought-after assets in this market, despite the paucity of buyers, and yet the Clippers are about to send him to Portland for something they’d already get even if Camby stuck around past the trade deadline – contracts that expire in June. And some cash.”
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I still think it’s a bad deal, BUT HOLLINGER, the clipper hater, Likes the deal.
My head is about to explode, I don’t know what to think anymore
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I would be way happier if Thornton and Bassy were part of the deal. More cash for the summer, prevent the current logjam at SF and PG. . .maybe we trade those two for a pick etc?
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
everything I’ve read or seen about the trade so far is saying that Sterling wants to make a huge signing for the summer. I don’t know why everyone on here is saying we aren’t gonna have cap space because the trade deadline isn’t over and both blake and outlaw’s contracts expire. I hope this is not the only move we are making and am intrigued now that things are getting done.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
I think we should have gotten more…but Outlaw has shown some flashes, and I’d certainly like to see how he plays in a clips uniform.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Pointless trade other than money. Another F You from the organization to the most loyal fans in sports. Sad but expected.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Camby sucks. I for one am tired of watching bricks off the side of the backboard on dead on wide open straight away shots. Woohoo he gets 12.1 rebounds a game. Clippers brick 56.8 shots per game. Good riddance. I’ll wait for griffin to come back.
raptor33 Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
good, I thought I was the only one who was tired of all those bricks. haha
and seriously, you guys make sound like camby was the man, he’ll make a nice back-up and mentor if he comes back next year, but he is not a starter anymore.
he’s making over 9 mil, and after looking at his stats, i would think that he will get over being traded to an actual playoff contender pretty quickly
hopefully this move is just one in many that will help to bring in a true player at the SF position
qd Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I think we were looking for more in the trade
raptor33 Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
but who really knows what the Clippers “could’ve gotten” for camby unless they were there next to dunleavy as he was talking to other GMs.
bongstradamus Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Yea, look at his stats.
Hes the second best rebounder in the game behind Dwight Howard.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
The trade is all right. It’s fantasy to think Camby could have brought the Clippers more than this in return. Last year at this time, no teams were offering even this good of a deal for Camby. Lots of teams last year said they were interested but all of them wanted him for nothing — just taking his salary off the Clippers books. That’s the truth.
The best thing about this trade is that it got rid of Ricky Davis, who was a disaster his entire stay here.
The second best thing is the Clippers got a valid point guard, which they didn’t have before this. I’d like to see Blake start in place of Baron Davis, who is as much of a disaster as Ricky Davis.
And there’s still a chance of something else happening before the deadline. I certainly would like to get rid of Telefair.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
In the scheme of things, the trade doesnt really mean much of anything… In 3 years, we wont even remember it.. It’s THAT worthless
the Clippers were victims of their own success. If they didnt hang on in the playoff hunt until a few weeks ago, Camby would have been traded at the beginning of the season for a much higher price…
blah blah blah…. it’s always about next year with this f-ing team.
FireDunleavy .com Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
No, it’s right now where Camby’s value is high.
Like the article said above “The trade deadline isn’t until Thursday, and the going rate for a 7-footer who can dominate on one end and hold his own on the other (to say nothing of his rather helpful expiring contract) should be through the roof.”
It is a worthless trade, but the point is they should have gotten something.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Would have like to have seen Brian Skinner traded. I guess he’s not in demand. Granted Camby was not the greatest offensive player on the team but defensivelly, his shot blocking created some memorable highlights…he will be missed when 6′-9″ forwards drive the basket and don’t find rejection in their faces…they’ll now be awarded with a slam dunk. Steve Blake is a great guy and ball handler…something the Clippers could use. Can’t speak for Outlaw so i won’t. Camby’s injuries and lack of offense make his loss a coin toss…I will miss his great shot blocking and wish him the best. For the rest of us, let’s hope the Clippers can find a way to play 3 qtrs of basketball for 4 qtrs…..anyone know how many games the Clippers would have won this year if the game ended in the 3rd qtr…interesting statistic to find out for those who can acquire this data.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
I’ll miss Marcus. He brought it every night, no matter where we were in the standings. The Clippers have never had enough players like that.
Ben S. Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
thats the thing….marcus brought it every night played hard PLAYED D
when no one else would….now whos gonna stop anybody….
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
I don’t think it’s that bad. Things weren’t working with Camby. It was time to try something else and both Blake and Outlaw might be marginal improvements. Blake brings some needed stability because he can both back up Baron Davis and take some of Baron’s playing time when ineffective. Given that Baron’s bouts of ineffectiveness are not that infrequent, having a guy like Blake is a marginal improvement. I don’t know that much about Outlaw, but if he can shoot and bring more athleticism to the 3 spot, he’d be an upgrade over Thornton or Butler.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Outlaw is pretty good and similar to al thornton except for the fact that he can shoot lights out from 3 …..
but only one little problem…
isnt his career over ors omething cause he broke his ankle or something?
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
I love how not a single basketball expert has stated we acquired the better players in this deal. In fact, aside from COLD HARD CASH, the team gained nothing basketball. NOTHING. Blake is a modest upgrade over Telfair and Bobby Brown and Outlaw is a upgrade over Butler and Thornton when healthy… except he’s already been out since November and we have no idea when he’ll be back. So at least for the next dozen games we added Blake for our power forward who was 2nd in the league in rebounding and 6th in blocked shots.
Please, let’s not delude ourselves thinking the team cares, they don’t… unless you are writing a check in front of them. This team did this trade for the sole purpose of making a few extra bucks. The real losers are of course the fans are wins are going to be even harder now to come by and the season ticket holders can look forward to losing by 15-20 points on a regular basis. Bravo Donald and Mike, I hope you two end up on flight 815 together this summer, perhaps then we’d be rid of you forever.
Posted on February 16th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
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