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		<title>By: Orlando Magic News &#38; Notes: Dwight&#8217;s Techs, Happy Birthday To Adonal Foyle and Matt Barnes &#124; Howard the Dunk &#124; An Orlando Magic Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orlando Magic News &#38; Notes: Dwight&#8217;s Techs, Happy Birthday To Adonal Foyle and Matt Barnes &#124; Howard the Dunk &#124; An Orlando Magic Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] You can find that story here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VH</title>
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		<dc:creator>VH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading up a lot on advanced stats in the last year.  It is really good to see that the interest is expanding league wide, but there is still a great amount of debate over which of these advanced stats are really effective.  For instance, just yesterday David Berri who is somewhat of a leading figure in the bball stat world (despite being an arrogant prick) posted an article about how there is an extremely low correlation coefficient for adjusted +/- year to year.  This was one of the booming stats of the last year that now appears to have very little use league wide.  It is one thing to have stat junkies, its another thing to have good ones that actually help your team win.  

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/john-hollinger-dean-oliver-and-some-other-people-comment-on-plusminus/

At the trade deadline I think Houston surpised a lot of people by trading Landry, an advanced stat superstar, for Kevin Martin, who does not stack up well.  I remember hearing an interview with Morey saying advanced stats arent the end all in their decision making.  Its important to remember that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading up a lot on advanced stats in the last year.  It is really good to see that the interest is expanding league wide, but there is still a great amount of debate over which of these advanced stats are really effective.  For instance, just yesterday David Berri who is somewhat of a leading figure in the bball stat world (despite being an arrogant prick) posted an article about how there is an extremely low correlation coefficient for adjusted +/- year to year.  This was one of the booming stats of the last year that now appears to have very little use league wide.  It is one thing to have stat junkies, its another thing to have good ones that actually help your team win.  </p>
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<p>At the trade deadline I think Houston surpised a lot of people by trading Landry, an advanced stat superstar, for Kevin Martin, who does not stack up well.  I remember hearing an interview with Morey saying advanced stats arent the end all in their decision making.  Its important to remember that.</p>
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		<title>By: laknights</title>
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		<dc:creator>laknights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I heard about this, I hoped Dunleavy was in attendance. I&#039;m disappointed the Clippers did not send any representative. It doesn&#039;t have to be the end-all-and-be-all in personnel decisions, but merely one tool. Information is king, at least obtain the information and then analyze whether it has value. A relatively small expense for the Clippers to attend for a man that has indicated he is willing to spend to improve the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I heard about this, I hoped Dunleavy was in attendance. I&#8217;m disappointed the Clippers did not send any representative. It doesn&#8217;t have to be the end-all-and-be-all in personnel decisions, but merely one tool. Information is king, at least obtain the information and then analyze whether it has value. A relatively small expense for the Clippers to attend for a man that has indicated he is willing to spend to improve the team.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mid-Afternoon Milk Mustache, featuring Jordan&#8217;s tarnished legacy &#124; Stacheketball, an NBA Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mid-Afternoon Milk Mustache, featuring Jordan&#8217;s tarnished legacy &#124; Stacheketball, an NBA Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The English: Kevin Arnovitz asks if fans, of the Clippers specifically, should feel cheated if their teams are not doing all they can to be on the cutting edge of basketball analytics. [ClipperBlog] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The English: Kevin Arnovitz asks if fans, of the Clippers specifically, should feel cheated if their teams are not doing all they can to be on the cutting edge of basketball analytics. [ClipperBlog] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: akram47</title>
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		<dc:creator>akram47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any team that doesn&#039;t have a statistician is definitely behind the curve.  At worst the employee is a tax write off on your payroll at best.... well ask the Boston Red sox what happened when they hired a statistician... watch the 60 minutes report below.

cut &amp; paste below

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/27/60minutes/main3974752.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any team that doesn&#8217;t have a statistician is definitely behind the curve.  At worst the employee is a tax write off on your payroll at best&#8230;. well ask the Boston Red sox what happened when they hired a statistician&#8230; watch the 60 minutes report below.</p>
<p>cut &amp; paste below</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Lehrer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Lehrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t take a basketball genius to tell that Baron Davis&#039;s effect on the team isn&#039;t always positive.  If the Clips were utilizing all of the analytical data that&#039;s available, they wouldn&#039;t have signed Baron to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a basketball genius to tell that Baron Davis&#8217;s effect on the team isn&#8217;t always positive.  If the Clips were utilizing all of the analytical data that&#8217;s available, they wouldn&#8217;t have signed Baron to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: FireDunleavy .com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FireDunleavy .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoopshype via
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/03/08/john.wall/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoopshype via<br />
<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/03/08/john.wall/" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/03/08/john.wall/</a></p>
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		<title>By: TNT57</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNT57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you read this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you read this?</p>
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		<title>By: TNT57</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNT57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the stats in the world won&#039;t save your team if it has no leaders.  No heart.  No desire to be great.  Show me one player, just one, on the current Clipper team that plays with that kind of fire every night?  There isn&#039;t one.  LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Parker, Dirk, these men play with purpose beyond numbers.  Until we find a player like this to lead and demand maximum effort every night, we&#039;ll be lousy.  Baron Davis is a cancer.  His pre-game nonsense of being the last player out of his warm-ups is gross to watch because it hasn&#039;t been earned.  It&#039;s false bravado from a player who is only great in his own mind.  Younger players watch this charade every night and figure that&#039;s the way to act.  Davis needs to be cut or benched so we don&#039;t have to witness this embarrassment game after game.  Watch how he holds up the game in an effort to draw attention to himself and then goes out and plays like a dog.  Shame on him for acting this way and shame on us for buying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the stats in the world won&#8217;t save your team if it has no leaders.  No heart.  No desire to be great.  Show me one player, just one, on the current Clipper team that plays with that kind of fire every night?  There isn&#8217;t one.  LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Parker, Dirk, these men play with purpose beyond numbers.  Until we find a player like this to lead and demand maximum effort every night, we&#8217;ll be lousy.  Baron Davis is a cancer.  His pre-game nonsense of being the last player out of his warm-ups is gross to watch because it hasn&#8217;t been earned.  It&#8217;s false bravado from a player who is only great in his own mind.  Younger players watch this charade every night and figure that&#8217;s the way to act.  Davis needs to be cut or benched so we don&#8217;t have to witness this embarrassment game after game.  Watch how he holds up the game in an effort to draw attention to himself and then goes out and plays like a dog.  Shame on him for acting this way and shame on us for buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: FireDunleavy .com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FireDunleavy .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Brown is calling the Clippers?  Must be using them as a bargining chip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Brown is calling the Clippers?  Must be using them as a bargining chip.</p>
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