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Clippers expected to sign Randy Foye and Ryan Gomes

Posted by D.J. Foster on July 8, 2010 at 6:04 pm

From Lisa Dillman at the Los Angeles Times:

“It appears as though the Clippers’ first move in the summer free-agent market will be signing guard Randy Foye.

Foye, 26, who can play point guard or shooting guard, averaged 10.1 points for the Wizards last season and had gone to Washington in a pre-draft trade with Minnesota last year, along with Mike Miller.

He was drafted by the Timberwolves and played there for three seasons before going to Washington.

All the free-agent chatter in the early days had been about Miller, and his worth only went up and up after the Clippers had him in their offices Saturday. Miller could end up going to the Knicks, or possibly, Miami.

Foye became an unrestricted free agent when the Wizards did not extend a qualifying offer, and he found himself the odd man out when the team drafted John Wall at No. 1. He also had his left knee scoped after the season, according to the Washington Post.”

Early indications point to the deal for Foye being a two-year deal worth eight million dollars total.

Lisa Dillman has also reported that forward Ryan Gomes is expected to sign with the team as well.

Update: Gomes has signed a three-year, 12 million dollar contract.

Update: Foye has signed a two-year, 8 million dollar contract.

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  1. avatar Beard The Curse Said,

    Nice pickups. I like our team. Just stay healthy.

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    TNT57 Reply:

    What do you like about this? Seriously? You’d buy a ticket to see either of these guys? I wouldn’t. This is called bottom feeding. There are much better players available. BARBOSA is better than both these guys. STEVE BLAKE, TRAVIS OUTLAW and CRAIG SMITH are better. NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY FOR THIS CLOWN CIRCUS.

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    chris. Reply:

    Blake moved to a championship team & Outlaw signed for 7 million a year… both signed for 5 years and while they may be good players they are not the best fit for the Clippers youth right now, especially not Outlaw for that many years at that much money. I like the cheap and short contracts we got versus those 2 any day.

    *I like Craig Smith, Clips still need a back-up PF, Sofo may not be the answer.

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    Five O Reply:

    I agree Chris. I am not convinced he can guard most NBA 4′s in this league. He would be a good backup center but we have that already. We could sign and trade him to Houston where there is strong interest on their side.

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    Five O Reply:

    Travis outlaw stunk in his stint with the clips and isnt really a guy you can count on night in and night out. I like Gomes as a pickup better than Outlaw. I think Randy Foye has a shot into developing into a nice backup point guard. He brings it every night and throws his body into the game. Remember, its Eric Bledsoe we are counting on to be the starter one day, not Foye. Good moves thus far but we need a shooter! Miller needs to be brought on and now Outlaw has re-established the bidding. Miller is as valuable as Outlaw so it will take at least 30M for 5 years to get him unless he is sold on the Miami Tour…….Please MIke, come to LAC and be a part of the movement.

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    hans Reply:

    i still cant believe the nets gave outlaw 35 / 5. thats insane.

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    Josh Reply:

    Outlaw was uninterested and sucked in his audition. Hard to believe he got that contract.

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    TNT57 Reply:

    OK. I predict 30 wins.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

  2. avatar mark Said,

    Get beasley

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    mmoore500 Reply:

    Beasley would ruin our young guys. He is crazy.

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    chris. Reply:

    He was just traded to Minnesotta

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    mark Reply:

    Thanks

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

  3. avatar jlewis Said,

    Foye is WORTHLESS. I know a roster has to be filled out with cheap, less productive (even unproductive) players but at age 26 there is no upside with Foye. He has actually produced less each year in the league. Washington may be the worst team in the NBA in 2010 and didn’t even offer him a tender! Why not sign a kid who might actually improve?

    Gomes is a glue guy and at the price we are likely to pay is a welcome addition.

    Also, with LeBron in Miami they have no funds for Dorell Wright. They’ve never given him consistent PT but he has always performed when they have. He’s a SoCal kid, still young and will come cheap ($2.5-3.5m/yr). What’s the downside to picking him up?

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    TNT57 Reply:

    MIAMI has a tenth the money to spend that the Clippers do and they didn’t want either of these guys…AND THEY’RE GOING TO WIN A TITLE.

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    mikeblack Reply:

    miami not going to win nothing boston is still the team to beat in the east

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

  4. avatar bewilder Said,

    love both pickups

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

  5. avatar clipper nation Said,

    travis outlaw- 5 years for $35 million
    randy foye- 2 years for $8 million

    well, that settles that. what a bargain in this market

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    Five O Reply:

    These are great deals and leaves the clippers ample money to pursue other quality free agents. There may be an opportunity Miami will want to dump Michael Beasely’s salary in exchange for a mid level exception. Great chance for the clippers to pick up another young piece and this would help the Heat sign another quality free agent. Win Win on both sides. C’mon Olshey, lets make a deal! Good job today on these two guys. I love Big East players.

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    ChaseB Reply:

    I’m starting to buy into Olshey. Very nice moves.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

  6. avatar clipthemoff Said,

    wow…. Foye is a Telfair 2.0 …i just hope he will do good though as a backup

    Gomes is great though i like him…..

    Davis, Bledsoe, /Foye
    Gordon, Warren, /Foye
    Gomes, Aminu,
    Griffin, Sofo
    Kaman, Jordan

    looks like a few spots will be filled with Skinner, Novak, Collins

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    EricGordonsAnkleBrace Reply:

    Skinner and Collins are awful. Better off signing some guys from the D League and hoping they blossom. SKinner and Collins are like dud fireworks that need to be thrown out.

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    Buckets Reply:

    I agree. Mardy showed some sack in that one monster game against Boston, but watching that guy play day to day is pretty hard to stomach. I’ve seen some more worthwhile no-name guys playing in Summer League this week.

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    avonhun Reply:

    That up and under on Pierce in the post was my favorite play of the season.

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    Buckets Reply:

    Haha I remember that one. Classic moment. Mardy has my respect for that one, definitely, but it’s time to move on now. Thanks for the memories!

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

  7. avatar EricGordonsAnkleBrace Said,

    Can we pick up livingston? He’s worth a mil for a 3rd string PG.

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    chris. Reply:

    He’d be the 4th string now that we have Davis, Beldsoe and Foye who is more of a PG than SG.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

  8. avatar csufbomb Said,

    I’d love to bring Rhino back (and Bobby Brown as the #3 PG) . . . but still think we need another legitimate 3-pt threat – is Korver out of the que$$$tion?

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    Five O Reply:

    Korver is still in play! So is Randolph Childress, Richard Jefferson and Mike Miller. Keep your fingers crossed. I too love CSUF (alumni) but bobby brown is not the fit we need.

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    kenji Reply:

    agree. there’s absolutely no reason to bring back bobby brown now that we have foye, bledsoe, and warren in back up guard positions.

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    Buckets Reply:

    I will be disappointed if we pick up RJ. One of the most overrated players in the league.

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    Bongstradamus Reply:

    Bobby Brown was a serial chucker and not a very good one at that. He can languish in the D-League until he learns to recognize what a good shot looks like.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

  9. avatar eddie mack Said,

    whats the deal on sofo and willie i know we now have about 9mil left??

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

  10. avatar Benjamin S. Said,

    i always like when we make moves or ANY signings….
    but dont we need a legit sized SG
    ? ? ?
    EG is kinda undersized and whos gonna back him up?
    Baron?
    Foye?

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

  11. avatar Benjamin S. Said,

    will Gomes play SF or PF?

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    Kyle Reply:

    SF

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

  12. avatar EricGordonsAnkleBrace Said,

    How about spending some of the 9 mil cap space on the handful of clipperbloggers that have supported this team since like forever!

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    D.J. Foster Reply:

    I fully support this plan of attack. K.A. would be a mean fourth string point guard.

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    Chandler Reply:

    hey, i’m for that too. especially during the times when we rebuild!

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    Chandler Reply:

    oh, but… how could i forget!??
    this is sterling we are dealing with… he might hire you guys and right before the 82nd game of the season… he’d fire all of you.

    …then refuse to pay you…

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

  13. avatar SamMays Said,

    Foye and Gomes are about as exciting as Joe Wolf… What’s he up to? These guys were part time starters on two of the worst teams in the NBA and both of those teams were fine with letting them go…

    Some summer of Lebron… Yeucck…

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

  14. avatar rbcaver Said,

    as long as owner don sterling is willing to open up his checkbook to sign players who will help the clippers make the playoffs for the 2010-11 season upcoming / this would make a lot of clipper fans very happy

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

  15. avatar TNT57 Said,

    Wow, I bet the Lakers are shittin’ themselves. What a joke. This blog has more rationalizations going on that a gambling annonymous meeting in Vegas.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

  16. avatar TNT57 Said,

    Warriors got DAVID LEE today. He’s KAMAN with a heart and a brain. We aren’t even close to being a playoff team. Could Sterling be any tighter with a buck? This is getting embarrassing folks.

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    Five O Reply:

    Kaman puts up respectable numbers and is an All star. With Griffin in the fold he will be able to perform better because attention will be diverted. Hey, if David Lee is so good why didnt anyone really go after him? Plenty of teams with cap space?? last year the bids were so low that he opted to return another year. Kaman is a solid center, not flashy, but good. We got to within one game of going to the conference finals with him as our center. Is our memory this short?

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    TNT57 Reply:

    Brother, I’ve spent the last 5 years watching Kaman get jerked around like a red headed step child. He has zero basketball sense. The guy FORGETS TO JUMP FOR THE OPENING TIP! He was the pity choice for ALL-Star.

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    chris. Reply:

    David Lee is a power forward, do you really want someone to come in and take minutes away from Blake Griffin now that we have all these youngin’s on our team?

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    Buckets Reply:

    I agree. I am a fan of Lee and I would have loved to see him in a Clipper uniform, but he doesn’t fit our team’s needs with Griffin already at the 4.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

  17. avatar TNT57 Said,

    LAKERS, JAZZ, BLAZERS, MAVS, NUGGETS, KINGS,WARRIORS, SPURS, ROCKETS, SUNS are all better than the Clippers. I probably forgot a few others.

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    chris. Reply:

    The Suns, Jazz & Spurs are more beatable today than they were last season because of their loss of players (Suns & Jazz) and age (Spurs). I’d say the Kings & Warriors are beatable for sure. If we can finally beat the lower teams on a regular basis and win some off of these games then we can sneak into the playoffs.

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    Chris McD Reply:

    Honestly dude, WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE? I don’t think I’ve ever read a positive comment made by you, TNT57. My wish is that you one day get hired among the Clippers office staff, maybe GM, so that I can do nothing but complain about your poor choices in the draft and free agent season. I bet even if the Clips got Lebron you’d find something to complain about.

    If all those teams are so great, then why don’t you just stop reading this CLIPPERS blog and go read one of theirs instead? Go take a vacation or something and cool off.

    Anyway, I am very curious as to how this year the Clips will do. I was all set for them making a playoffs appearance until mishap after mishap happened.

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    Chris McD Reply:

    I meant playoffs appearance last season.

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    TNT57 Reply:

    BECAUSE I KEEP WATCHING THIS TEAM SUCK! Oh, you can only be a fan if you say good things? What is this a cult? I ‘ve paid 10′s of thousands to support this team and I’ve gotten nothing but excuses and heartless efforts. Is that fun for you? OK. Here. WOW, Randy Foye is coming! Now we start printing up those banners! There are 10 players out there better than Foye and Gomes. I was very happy when Sam came and we finlly had a player with some swagger and some heart. I drove an hour and a half to watch EVERY home game. I just hate the direction this team is going and I have every right to say it. You must love crappy basketball. I don’t. I want something better. And I’ll bitch every time these nuts make another tired move. Shake it up! Do something bold. Fail big! This crap is just like dog paddling around going nowhere.

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    Tino Reply:

    co-sign on having TNT57 get the *#@^ outta here! outlandish retarded comments (the KINGS & WARRIORS are better?) aren’t needed HERE! save it for national publications! this is where real, knowledgeable, passionate CLIPPER fans should post! Beat it punk!

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    TNT57 Reply:

    Dude, I’ll bet you right here that we get beat by BOTH those teams this year. The KINGS are vastly more improved than the Clippers. You guys are like sheep. Keep supporting this garbage, that’s exactly what Donald is counting on. I want more. BTW, I love it when you guys attack me. If you guys think these moves are great then they must be wrong.

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    TNT57 Reply:

    Hey, lets start we love shitty basketball, we never expect anything and we’re just happy to be here club!

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

  18. avatar Matt Said,

    We need to bring Craig Smith back, but at what price? Randy Foye signing is a waste of valuable resources!!!!UUUGGGHHHH!!!!! Kyle Korver is very intriguing though. I am not as excited as I was a couple of weeks ago, we got none of the top SF’s. Lebron,Pierce,JJ,Rudy Gay, nothing! Life as a Clipper fan,more dissapointment!

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

  19. avatar Matt Said,

    Vinny Del Negro? Really? What are we doing???????

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

  20. avatar Matt Said,

    kings and warriors are not better. okc is. jazz, nuggets, and spurs are declining at least.

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    FVDN Reply:

    Just wait. The Warriors are supposed to hire Dunleavy in their front office.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

  21. avatar Matt Said,

    I’m jonesin for the days of Larry Brown.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

  22. avatar Matt Said,

    These are good signings, from a financial and growth standpoint. This team doesnt need to sign any veterans to long contracts. Beasely would be a decent addition to a young core.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

  23. avatar dawool Said,

    i LOVE ryan gomes, he can shoot the three, and is just a baller. he’ll go out and do whatever, hussle, play d, score some shots,

    randy foye, i thought he was good like 3 yrs ago.

    i hate vinny del negro.
    i hate how the twolves got beasley for a 2nd round pick….hes a stud.

    but davis/gordon/aminu or gomes/griffin/kaman is formidable.

    all of your are counting out griffin.
    hes stoudemire with intangibles/rebounding/defense.

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    Five O Reply:

    Beasely is nice but he is not all that. He will get a chance to put up numbers on a terriblle team. I hope they continue to stink beyond 2012 when we get the T Wolves lottery pick!!!

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    hans Reply:

    the wolves im sure will stink. they have 3 starting power forwards, darko at center, wesley johnson, and a terrible backcourt.

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    Buckets Reply:

    I think the Clips were smart to pass on Beasley. Dude may have stud potential but he is also bona fide nuts and plays no D. The Clips have a group of good young players with the right attitude. No need to add a team cancer into the mix, no matter how intriguing he might be.

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    chris. Reply:

    They also have to trade a first round pick down the line with Miami in the deal.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

  24. avatar Galo Said,

    Michael Beasley going to Minnesota….there goes that idea…

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

  25. avatar Curtis Said,

    If we can get C. Smith back, we’d have a T-Wolves second unit going. That’d be good for the team chemistry and a reliable group of bench players.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

  26. avatar FD Said,

    Well Dan Gilbert took the title of worst owner in the NBA away from Sterling after that letter.

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    bewilder Reply:

    sure did! lol

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

  27. avatar mmoore500 Said,

    At $4 million per year, these are good pickups. Especially considering that they are both short term contracts.

    We have Minny’s pick in 2012 which should still be pretty good.

    I guess once again us Clip’s fans are waiting for what is just around the corner.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

  28. avatar pez Said,

    not a big foye or gomes fan….I think we’ve seen the best of both of them already. Gomes does fit with some of our needs at least

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

  29. avatar tb Said,

    Worthless offseason so far. It is clear that Sterling refuses to spend. Perhaps some teams are overpaying for a couple of guys, but at least their owners are trying to put quality players on the floor. Question for you guys with good memories: has any team ever won anything without going over the cap? Time to spend money on a real star and then use exceptions, like bird rights, to create a decent team. We have a lot of talent we could resign without worrying about the cap (Outlaw, Rhino, Blake, Butler etc) except Sterling wants to use the cap as an excuse to keep expenses low.
    Lakers have salaries totaling $81MM already and they are still signing players – no wonder they are good.

    Sterling is bogus and everyone in the organization who says Sterling is willing to spend is a fraud. Shameful. Start putting some money on the floor, start building a winning culture, start keeping guys around. Have we had less than 25 different guys on the team the last two years? We are the revolving door of shame. I am sooo pissed for renewing season tix…

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    FD Reply:

    I’m not sure those players want to go back to the Clippers though.

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    tb Reply:

    That was my point. Players dont want to be here. They know we don’t go the distance… we would like good things to happen to us, but we dont pursue them…
    Unless we don’t start “managing the right way” (as VDN would have said) we will remain an underperforming revolving door…

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    TNT57 Reply:

    THANK YOU! Exactly my point.

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    chris. Reply:

    Apparently Chicago has never been over the cap under Reinsdorf, even when they won their championships. I may be wrong but read that in some Bulls post when I was looking into Deng & Del Negro’s relationship (it wasn’t good.)

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

  30. avatar AfishLClipp Said,

    I’m def fine with Gomes, but not sure about foye (hope this doesn’t stop us from signing warren).

    So with about $9M left:

    -$2.5M per year for 2 years for Sofo we still have $6.5M…

    Could we still get Korver/Morrow and Rhino (Bird Rights?) and avoid luxury taxes( we know DTS can’t accept that)?

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    Pez Reply:

    Sounds like a long shot….would hate to lose rhino, but we definitely still need another shooting wing. Would rather hold onto Rhino than Sofo….rhino has at least proven to be an effective NBA player.

    Officially on board the rhino + korver/morrow bandwagon.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

  31. avatar Chris McD Said,

    Well Miami has just turned out the be the New York Yankees of basketball now. You know what though? I have a strong feeling they won’t be taking the championship.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

  32. avatar Matt Said,

    I heard rumors the clippers might get raymond felton

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    kenji Reply:

    why would they go get felton after signing foye? olshey isn’t THAT dumb.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

  33. avatar AfishLClipp Said,

    Potential great flexible lineups:

    Baron, Bledsoe/Foye
    Gordon, Korver/Morrow, Warren
    Griffin, Gomes, Aminu, Rhino
    Griffin, ,DJ, Sofo, Rhino
    Kaman, DJ

    I truly think Griffin and Rhino would both dominate more at SF, although Griffin would take most if not all PFs off the dribble. Can you imagine Rhino backing down SFs HAHA and we all know how quick and elusive he is in the paint. People, you realize he’s only 6’7″!!!
    You then can give DJ the minutes he needs to grow( did anyone else notice how many boards this dude was getting when he started at PF late last season?). Then rotate Sofo in for him, and then bring in DJ for Kaman. Its a similar big man 3 rotation that the lakers have with Pau, Odom, and Bynum; I think its pretty effective. And guess what, our Benga is Rhino just in case one of them goes down.

    With that kind of flexibility you can match your players against whatever the opponent decides to put on the floor. Take for instance the new Miami: Baron dominates, eric gordon is one of the closest body type athletic match ups to Wade, Griffin handles Lebron, DJ handles Bosh, and Kaman dominates Pittman, and if Pittman thinks he can push dudes around, just sick Sofo on him LOL

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    chris. Reply:

    Uh Blake at SF doesn’t spread the court open, it clogs up the middle, he’s a PF and definitely not a SF. Rhino isn’t either. Gomes, Foye & Aminu can be used as tweeners though.

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    AfishLClipp Reply:

    you’re right, Kaman does!! When Kaman is out of the key for a potential mid-range(his bread & butter), Griffin flashes through the lane for an easy catch and shoot/slam. Rhino hasn’t played SF, but that’s the point, you have to try him there as this would also work with Kaman drawing out the opposing center… their PF slides over for help D and Rhino could make a quick dish to DJ/Sofo.

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    AfishLClipp Reply:

    BTW, why do you think griffin matched up with artest in preseason last year?

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

  34. avatar kenji Said,

    matt barnes
    josh childress
    korver

    we need one of these guys at least.

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    mark Reply:

    Word! 2 years, 12 mill

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

  35. avatar Benjamin S. Said,

    we need a legit sized SG!

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

  36. avatar Clipper Speakeasy Said,

    I think we can all agree that the best thing about these signings is that they are 2 and 3 year deals fore relatively low $$. That said, it is hard to root for cap space and cap frugality is only appreciated when the cap is spread across a 10 man rotation so that it results in a a balanced and competitive team on the floor. With these 2 signings and the expected Sofo signing, I don’t see this happening. Now that Beasley is gone from Miami, I suppose Miller is no longer an option for the Clips. That leaves Korver as the next best option of those currently available as a free agent. Korver as the potential jewel of the Clips’ 2010 free agency foray. Not exactly what I wanted as a season ticket holder.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

  37. avatar Galo Said,

    Mike Miller signing with the Heat….SF market shrinking…down to Josh Howard, Kyle Korver, Matt Barnes, Tracy McGrady, Josh Childress….

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

  38. avatar AfishLClipp Said,

    If we could get Tracy for 2/3 years on the real cheap, that would be awesome, tho if he’s gonna take a major cut, he’s probably join the Lakers.

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    AfishLClipp Reply:

    BTW, Korver is technically listed at SG and plays more as one anyway.

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    Posted on July 8th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

  39. avatar neiljlax Said,

    i cant condemn Foye after stints in Minn. and Was.
    those 2 clubs have been equally or worse f’ed up than the Clips.
    I’m looking for him to surpise us here in a good way.

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    Posted on July 9th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

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