On Tuesday, Bryan Wiedey of Pasta Padre announced he had received player rankings from 2K Sports. In a barrage of tweets, Wiedey answered people’s 2K-related questions, and tweeted out team-by-team rotations ratings. Twitter, as usual, erupted in debate over the topic, disagreeing about this player and that player. The Clipper team ratings, however, should cause some controversy among Clippers fans (along with DeAndre Jordan). To view the top-45 2K12 player ratings (80+ overall) view Pasta Padre’s list. Want to see a YouTube video from NBA2K12stuff of each team’s top-10 rotation players? Thought so. Here’s the Clipper breakdown, from @pastapadre‘s twitter account:
NBA 2K12 player ratings (Clippers): Griffin 85, Gordon 82, Kaman 76, Williams 74, Gomes 62, Foye 68, Jordan 65, Aminu 69, Bledsoe 65
• Blake is tied for 14th best player in the game with Dirk Nowitzki, Rajon Rondo, Andre Iguodala and Manu Ginobili. That seems a little high for Iguodala and Ginobili, but neverthless, it’s nice to see Blake on par with Dirk and Rondo (how is Dirk behind the likes of Rudy Gay, Amar’e Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook and Pau Gasol? he should easily be top-10). In past games, Griffin would have likely earned an 87 or 88 rating due to inflation.
• EJ’s 82 rating ties John Wall, Joakim Noah, and Paul Pierce. Pretty good company, although Gordon may be a step ahead of Wall and Noah (probably two steps ahead of Noah). The only player ahead of Gordon that shouldn’t be is Stephen Jackson, who mind-boggingly ranks as an 83 overall, tied with Kevin Garnett, Monta Ellis, LaMarcus Aldridge, Zach Randolph, and Gerald Wallace (who does Jackson have blackmail on over at 2K Sports? or did he just threaten them?).
• After a mediocre season (compared to his 2010 campaign), Kaman still earned an impressive 76 rating, which is relatively high compared to what seems to be a league-wide drop in 2K player ratings (he’s tied with Brook Lopez, Vince Carter, Jason Terry and Kyle Lowry).
• Mo Williams’ 74 rating David West, Nic Batum, Andrei Kirilenko, Thad Young, Marcus Thornton, Rashard Lewis and Jeff Green (as well as a few other players … 74 seemed to be pretty popular).
• For as bad as Ryan Gomes was last season, a 62 overall rating is pretty low. It’s borderline “he shouldn’t be playing at all.” Maybe I just differ in opinion, but I feel a mid-60s rating (64 or 65) would have been better. Yes, I’m that petty that a increase of two in Gomes’ overall rating would appease me (Gomes’ B+ outside shooting grade is higher than Gordon’s B grade … really 2K? Gordon is arguably the Clippers best shooter. Ugh. Moving on.).
• Randy Foye is an upper-echelon bench player … according to 2K. I’d say that’s about right. A 66 or 67 may be more accurate, but 68 sounds about right. Good job, 2K.
• Al-Farouq Aminu’s 69 seems too high at first, but based off the fact that his 2K skills likely revolve around dunking,
decent 3-point shooting (he’s a D in outside shooting, nevermind), and some rebounding skills, he may deserve it. Wait, what am I saying? This is too high. Even I can’t convince myself otherwise. Aminu better turn the ball over every other time he touches it.
• Bledsoe’s 65 is about right, but because of his increased role next season (I’m just assuming), he probably deserves a little bit higher. But this is relatively accurate, especially compared to other ratings.
• It’s not listed here, but Jamario Moon is a 67. WHAT?!?! 2K thinks he’s better than Jordan, Gomes, Bledsoe, Smith, Diogu, etc.? No way. Terrible, terrible rating.
• Where’s Craig Smith?
My problem with 2K’s ratings
I’m an avid 2K gamer. Not like how I used to be, but I play enough to have a respectable opinion on ratings, game features, etc. My first ever 2K game was 2K3, and I’ve been hooked ever since (although there was a time in the mid-to-late 00s when NBA Live was the créme de la créme).
Anyway, I’ve concluded most of their ratings make no sense. Yeah, we’re going to disagree on certain players ratings. But I’m not talking about those ones. I’m talking about the ones that just flat out have no explanation.
There’s barely any variance from year to year (as far as comparing individual players to previous 2K installments). If a role player has one good season, he’ll earn a decent rating and stay there for at least a few seasons, regardless if he drops off a cliff or not (kind of like Randy Foye, Mike Miller, James Posey, etc.).
On the contrary, good — or above average — young players rarely earn the ratings they deserve. Sure, the top ones will (Kevin Love, John Wall, etc.) but players that should be in the mid-to-low 70s earn mid-to-high 60s, and so on and so forth. It sometimes takes 2K an extra year or two to catch on to the fact that a player doesn’t suck. Like say, DeAndre Jordan.
Look, DJ isn’t perfect. He’s not very good skill-wise (DJ, if you’re reading this, you’re the man). But he’s better than over half of the league. He’s a rotation player, and likely a quality starting center (one of only 11 players to average 7+ points, 7+ rebounds and 1.5+ blocks). He’s not a 65 overall. He’s a 70 at the very worst. Probably a 72. But a 65? You give Kaman a 76 and Jordan a 65? If, and I mean if, Kaman is the better player, it’s not by that much.
On paper, DJ is the perfect 2K center (behind the top big men, of course). He can dunk, finish alley-oops, block shots, rebound, run the pick-and-roll and maybe even shut some people down on the block — remember, this is a video game. Honestly, I’m excited to see how dominant he can be if used correctly (one of my favorite parts of 2K is when random, crappy players dominate. I expect nothing less from DJ, although I’ll repeat the fact that he doesn’t suck).
In all seriousness, how is Jordan worse than Jamario Moon, Al Thornton, Quentin Richardson, Travis Outlaw, Anthony Parker, Keith Bogans and Keyon Dooling (to name a few)? This doesn’t make sense, which is why I have major problems with some of 2K’s ratings. Wings seem to always rate higher, regardless of their skill (probably because of their more well-rounded games, but still, I think the system should even it out to an extent so that big men’s ‘big man’ skills are weighted more so big men will stop being heavily underrated).
I understand that it’s tough to decide where players should end up. Giving a player a numerical value is grounds for debate and controversy, regardless of the accuracy. However, 2K glaringly screws up each and every year. Please, hire a few TrueHoop players to fill out a survey similar to #NBArank, and you’re customer satisfaction will increase. There, I just wrote over 1,000 words on meangingless ratings that are subject to change by throughout the season — if there is one.
Thank you lockout.
(Feel free to join in on the discussion and give your opinion!)