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Dissecting the Side-Screen Roll Since 2006

Guard Troubles/Talk

Posted by Nick Flynt on February 9, 2012 at 7:06 pm

I’m not really sure how to organize and cover all of the issues, so let’s just dive right in.

Obviously we know that the shooting guard spot going into the season was confusing yet manageable. The Clippers’ highest concentration of talent was (and arguably still is) at the guard positions, yet really we’re only talking about the point guard spot. And due to this glut of points guards, one injury (Chauncey’s, if you hadn’t heard) means that the only player who could effectively defend the shooting guard spot is out. There has been talk about a Caron Butler-Ryan Gomes shooting guard/small forward lineup, but that is neither reasonable offensively nor defensively to my eyes, nor would I guess to too many other reasonable eyes.

Mo Williams more or less has to continue functioning in his same role, which has been part-PG (with Billups or Foye functioning as his SG), part-SG (with Chris Paul running the point). Defensively, Williams as a 2-guard is going to continue to be unbearable. Even worse, Randy Foye (whose defense is among the worst in the NBA in terms of guards) will be taking up those old Chauncey Billups minutes. On the bright side, we can expect the offense to more or less function just as well as it has this entire season.

I’ll throw in some brief commentary about the possibility of a JR Smith acquisition in a month or so — it won’t help that much. He’ll essentially be a more talented yet less controlled version of Randy Foye that plays equally (or perhaps even more) terrible defense at the guard position. Also, JR Smith is crazy. This information should be enough for you readers in Internet Land to infer my opinion on a JR Smith acquisition.

Okay, so we have the gist laid out in terms of the guard rotation and how it will impact the team. But hey, while we’re dealing with an injury to our best guard defender (or wing, for that matter, with Caron Butler disappointing defensively so far this season), let’s throw in this interview that seems to feature some heavy grumbling from Mo Williams, who is currently a very key cog in the Clippers’ excellent offense so far this season.

First and foremost, let me say that I don’t think Mo was given a fair shake at all in this interview, judging by the tone Mr. Simers used throughout the piece (Besides general tone, Simers also described Chauncey Billups as being “much better” than Mo Williams, which to me is simply inaccurate in regards to their respective play this season).

Moving along to the main point of the thing, it is completely reasonable for a player to want an extension so he can stay on with a solid, extremely talented team like the Clippers. Is it also reasonable to question the logic of a player seeming so worried (and possibly disgruntled) when he has a player option for the upcoming season and is the 6th man on a competitive team, and is also getting key minutes with the team’s starters? Yes. Is it reasonable to question a player openly voicing the desire for an extension mid-season when the team is dealing with a key injury and still trying to gel together? Again, the answer is yes. However, Mo Williams is a human being with human worries. He wants to be locked up relatively long-term with a team that has a bright future and also benefit from his excellent season in terms of money (that last one is a presumption, but I think a safe one). In terms of his apparent worries about being traded…I don’t share them. Mo Williams is extremely key as the back-up PG to this team, and despite arguments I’ve heard in favor of Eric Bledsoe recently, I don’t think there’s a chance we see Mo traded. Eric Bledsoe has shown almost no ability so far in his career to perform reliably (and consistently in that reliability) as a point guard for a playoff-type team. Although let it be noted that this does not mean he will never be an effective and reliable NBA point guard.

So anyway, I suppose I came into this thinking I’d talk about the general troubles we’re currently suffering in the backcourt (outside of Chris Paul), and now I realize that this was all fairly predictable.

The defensive impact of playing small/bad defensive guards together? Sure, I could see that coming. The occasional reliance on jumpers causing offensive stagnation? Again, predictable. Injuries? Well, they happen. But in terms of coping with Mo Williams’s role and contract issues, I’m hoping all parties involved are ready to move on. Billups’s injury should settle some playing time concerns (despite hurting the team in terms of success), but no one can predict what Mo Williams’s contract issues will mean going forward.

Beyond that, the Clippers’ backcourt as currently constructed forms a top-heavy, semi-effective unit. Defensively, I (and the blog as a whole) probably have not done a good enough job keying in on how bad the backcourt has been defensively this season.

And yet the Clippers are still on track for the playoffs, and people still seem pretty excited. So there’s your silver lining.

 

 

 

 

61 Responses

  1. avatar griffin Said,

    Clippers took a hit when billups went down and becuz of that I can see bledsoe and foye being trading chips for an sg assuming we sign jr smith as a back up to that sg in a trade but still it looks grim. I wish we kept gordon and left bledsoe but this time I hope the clips can manage without a trade and still be in the top 3 in the playoff race and still go to the western confernece

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    The Outsider Reply:

    “Assuming we sign JR Smith”? are you kidding me? How will the clippers sign JR Smith? To what? The vet minimum of 1 million a year? A guy who can easily demand 3-5 million a year is going to sign for 1million just because “it’s the Clippers?” You guys need a reality check. The Clippers are not the Lakers. they are not the Knicks. they are the west coast version of the Miami Heat at best. They can easily attract and sign an old fogie like Kenyon Martin to the mini-midlevel, but netting an in-his-prime talent like JR Smith will take at least that money and probably more. There is no “Clipper mystique,” and it’s going to take more than just a Blake Griffin and Chris Paul team-up to create that. Multiple such pairings and a history of winning is how you get to where the Celtics, Lakers, and Knicks are in terms of prestige.

    Bottom line: the Clippers are not signing JR Smith. They don’t have the resources to, unless they trade to get under the cap. (not happening). This is why I derided the Kenyon Martin signing. A talented wing player was what the Clippers needed, not interior depth. Well, they needed both – but I would have shelled out for the wing talent first, and then addressed the interior depth. I would have taken a chance on my young studs (Griffin and DeAndre) staying healthy all year, and shored up the scariest and most injury prone part of the rotation, the SF/SG positions (not that the clippers have a real SG anyway!)

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

  2. avatar Juan Said,

    So the question becomes who are the good defensive, 3 point shooting, young up and coming SGs in the league?? And of those, who will be available either via trade or free-agency (even restricted)? The way the team is currently composed and their once in a while completely lacksadasical effort against teams they should beat, these Clips like the Thunder of the last couple of years will take their lumps in the playoffs until they can add that SG. They do have plenty of 1 year and expiring contracts so this coming off-season should be interesting.

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    Clips4 Reply:

    Rudy Ferandez @ the small forward and move Caron to the shooting guard spot. Make the trade of Bledsoe and Foye. Then we can sign JR Smith and try to sign a big man at the center spot, a legit seven-footer.

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    Matt Park Reply:

    The Nuggets would not make that trade… They are already a guard heavy team and Rudy plays valuable minutes for the team. He’s mostly used as a spot-up shooter and to initiate the offense. Denver already has Andre Miller and Ty Lawson to play heavy minutes at the point, and Bledsoe isn’t really an upgrade over either of them. Besides, Dre has been having a great year with a line of 11/7/4 with 1 steal thrown in for good measure. I don’t think he’s ready to retire jussssssst yet. And Foye… not going to happen.

    I think that no trade this perfect will happen… The most feasible trades are ones for Raja Bell, Keith Bogans (and the Nets acquiring Bledsoe and Foye basically means they gave up trying to retain Deron Williams, so that’s a probable no as well), Jason Richardson, Courtney Lee, Raja Bell, and the like. I honestly have no idea which trade would be the best because I don’t watch all the players and the stats I have access only say so much… However, provided that he can actually play defense, I think I would prefer Courtney Lee or Keith Bogans.

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    AH Reply:

    Bogans fractured something. Out for the year.

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    griffin Reply:

    Raja bell is a good defender and he could make the back court beast

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    Clips4 Reply:

    When Wilson Chandler comes back, Fernandez won’t get any minutes. Although, Courtney Lee wouldn’t be a bad pick up either. Either way, size in the backcourt is important to go for.

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    Clips4 Reply:

    Bell is too old and washed up.

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    JaySee Reply:

    I’ve said his name before when we had nothing at the 3, and he still fits the bill now: Francisco Garcia. He’s tall, long, plays D, and doesn’t demand the ball. He’s a decent, but not good 3 point shooter. He’s fallen out of the rotation in Sac behind Salmons, Thornton, and Fredette.

    My dream would be for the Clips to trade Gomes and Cook for him, but there are a number of ways to make the trade work with Gomes, Cook, Foye, and Bledsoe as pieces. If we send Bledsoe, we better get a pick in return. I’d want a 2nd rounder at least if we send Foye. I doubt Sac would want either Foye or Bledsoe, so maybe a 3rd team would be needed.

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    JaySee Reply:

    Just tried Gomes and Cook for Garcia in the trade machine and it says it helps the Kings win 1 more game. do_Ob I guess the Kings could use Gomes.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=834jqoo

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

  3. avatar AH Said,

    Nice in-the-moment write up, Nick. Can you outline some options to rectify the SG/SF depth for the options? Reports suggest the Clips don’t want to give up a 1st rounder and don’t want to let Bledsoe go with the uncertainty of Mo/CP3 contracts.

    Who’s gettable? Anyone?
    JR Smith
    Courtney Lee?
    Chase Budinger?
    Carlos Delfino?
    Shaun Livingston?
    Rudy Fernandez?
    Who else?

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    Nick Flynt Reply:

    Great question/suggestion.

    Obviously I mentioned JR in passing. He’s signable, but not really a huge upgrade (as I said, horrible defender), and even if the Clips did sign they have to wait for his team to be eliminated in China (which is like a month away).

    Livingston would be pretty cool to have in terms of basically using him as a PG with Mo or whoever at SG, then you cross-match on D. But I don’t think there’s any way the Bucks give him up for anything the Clips have.

    Really, that’s the issue with the Clippers. The assets that are known are basically gone, unless you want to overdo and give up a 1st rounder, or if someone is really high on Bledsoe.

    I would certainly be willing to move Bledsoe for a solid 2G on even a decent contract, but the Clippers themselves may be high on Bledsoe (and not without reason, as obviously he has athletic gifts).

    Delfino I would love. he’d essentially function as what people apparently think Caron Butler can.

    In terms of Butler at 2, by the way, I am a firm ‘no.’ He’s been a bad defender so far this season, especially in terms of getting through shooter screens/getting out on spot-ups shooters. Having him attempt to guard 2s does not help him chase guys around.

    But anyway, I don’t like to make up imaginary trades that would work, because I don’t know what other teams are definitely looking for, or how different teams value guys, etc. etc.

    Obviously, though, the Clippers have trade exceptions to use if they want to make a move with Bledsoe for a guy with higher salary (like Delfino), etc. etc.

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    JaySee Reply:

    You can’t combine a trade exception to a higher salary. The Clippers biggest exception is EJ’s 3.8 million. Anyone making over that you can’t use the exception on.

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    Clips4 Reply:

    I would cross match with having the new guy guard the 2 while Caron still guards the 3.

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    Renato S. Reply:

    I don’t think that JR will be so bad at defense and I think he can help, even more because Mo Williams won’t be around here next season.

    Williams may be a human being and so are everybody, I don’t think it’s ethic of his part to do what he is doing. You say you don’t want to be traded to a bad team, because you’d feel miserable, but at the same time you demand more time and want to be a starter and also wants an extension. Can you be more selfish at all? Play for the team and things happen. I thought he was embracing his role, but apparently with Billups injury he saw an opportunity for him and re-started this BS. As much as he says that he wants to know where he stands for the Clippers, he is clearly stupid if he already don’t know. He wants someone to pet his head and say “Mo, you are important for us”?

    He is the guard that brings scoring off the bench and that’s why it would be a waste to have him as a starter, you would end up with no bench scoring, he wouldn’t get as much touch as a starter because there are other scorers, he wouldn’t have as much freedom to go and shoot as he has with the bench, play for the f&@$^# team!

    Griffin and CP3 extension is much more important than his and I’m sure he knows it, he is gambling and he will lose. This team has such a good vibe, why is he trying to disrupt it?

    I bet JR won’t be just an upgrade over Foye, as I remember JR, he may be crazy and not so committed 100% but he can defend and harass his opponent, he can play defense. Clippers defensive problem is not about an individual defense, look at the Celtics, they are old, but their defense has been there lately, just because individually they have good defensive players? No, it’s the system! Celtics work so well with the help defense, switches, that it covers for each others flaws. When the Clippers go for help defense and they switch defenders and the other team moves the ball, they get completely lost and somebody always get an open shot. The problem with the Clips is that their D is like a bench player, sometimes he shows and have a good night and sometimes he is just off, the D is inconsistent.

    Anyway, my point is, for what is available out there, they should try to get JR for good, he will bring more than you are saying. He is a scorer, right now the Clippers have no real scorer, even more a explosive one, he is a good 3pt shooter, I don’t know what stats say but I saw him play D, he can do it and D wasn’t really Nuggets’ strength. Be JR or not, with the Billups’ injury, they need to add someone before the trade line.

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    mic Reply:

    would love to add rudy fernandez for trade exception. i thought clippers should have got him in the offseason (i think denver got him for a future second round pick). chandler is a restricted FA so if someone signs him to an offersheet pricey enough and denver matches denver might be inclined to trade away rudy. the injury to danilo might make them reluctant to trade away a swing though

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    The Outsider Reply:

    JR Smith is not “signable.” Clippers don’t have fantasy space under the cap or made-up exceptions with which to use on him. The Kenyon Martin signing killed any shot at Wilson Chandler or JR Smith. It’s done.

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    mic Reply:

    clippers can sign JR Smith to vet min.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    right…because whenever you can get a chance to work for 30% of what you are actually worth, you should do it!

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

  4. avatar MV22 Said,

    Too soon to panic. Billups is irreplaceable. Last game vs. Cleveland was a hangover loss. I heard an interview on radio today and according to the reporter, he was in the locker room after the win over Orlando and said the team was depressed about Chauncy. Clearly, they carried that energy (or lack of) into Cleveland. I wouldn’t want to lose Mo Williams. His scoring off the bench is crucial to the team. Martin improves us up front. Griffin’s free throw shooting is improving now that he’s taking rhythm dribbles. It’s still a very good team and I wouldn’t break it up now. Other players have to step up in the meantime.

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 9:15 pm

  5. avatar crimelaw Said,

    I would not trust T.J Simers version of any interview. He’s a well recognized dog. Mo is a fine player who had a bad game. Jordan was terrible & Paul was merely mortal. That’s why they lost to the Cavs.That being said, the Clips could use JR Smith or someone like him to give more scoring punch to the second team & to replace Caron if he goes down which,unfortunately is a real possibility.

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    Brad Reply:

    Thank you couldnt agree more, why is TJ even traveling with clippers, why does he even have a Job! He is a one dimensional writer and that dimension is stirring the pot…on the bright side a little diversity in the long run can be good for a team, but one bad game by Mo is not enough to justify labeling him selfish

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    The Outsider Reply:

    Simers is the worst…

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

  6. avatar bongstradamus Said,

    I think we are having the best start in franchise history. I think we’re over-reacting a bit.

    DD hasn’t made a post yet about how DJ is the cause of climate change with all the torching going on around the league. This is a good thing.

    Bad on the guys for thinking Cleveland would be easy. They should know the target is on their back.

    I dont have anything against Mo Williams, but he’s got the best contract to trade at a position we need to develop a young player at. We need to give Bledsoe minutes, despite the need for a reliable back up point, because in the long term it is in our best interests. Move Mo. Develop the core. Even if it means losing against teams like Cleveland.

    We could win a championship this year. There’s a great chance even with Chauncey down because of our youth in a compressed schedule. The realist in me says we need at least this season and next season in the playoffs. But honestly, we are 1 big move, or 3-4 small moves away from having a potential dynasty. It’s nice to develop a taste for winning, but we have a group of guys that needs to develop their skills as well. With the new CBA its imperative we develop our young assets for the long term success of the franchise.

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    AH Reply:

    Well said. Denver losing to GSW tonight for 5 straight loses shows injuries play a role and OKC losing to Sacto shows the best teams are susceptible.

    Do we really have to make a move though? Dallas won last year with a Kidd, Terry backcourt in crunch time and they’ve added Beaubois to the mix this year. Kidd, Terry, Beaubois is similar in composition to CP3, Mo, Bledsoe.

    I think a backup SF/wing is more important than finding a starting SG. Blakely? He’s in the D-League All-Star game now. Or if Gomes could find is game that would be good too.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    Agreed, a wing player was what this team needed, not Kenyon Martin. Olshey screwed it up!

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    Tim Reply:

    Olshey didn’t mess it up, we needed both, and Kenyon was available so he made the move. KMart makes sense for this roster, and 1 more move is all we need now. Outsider, relax, Clippers are a work in progress. Unfortunately, we are in wait and see mode now. We have to wait and see if Mo steps up or if he’s going into the tank. We have to wait and see how Foye meshes with the starters, and we have to make sure the team doesn’t slip into a funk. VDN needs to step it up. KMart addressed 1 glaring need on this team which was backup low post scoring, and rebounding, and he’s the new Enforcer.

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 9:53 pm

  7. avatar Ozzy Said,

    They have played 3 gaurds at times during the game but why not play 3 bigs. I think the best defensive line up would be:

    Pg – cp3
    Sg – caron butler
    Sf – k-mart
    Pf – blake griffin
    C – dj

    I think the extra length would help, especialy when dj goes for blocked shots they would have better help defense and rebounding.

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    Clips4 Reply:

    We would get torched on defense by quicker lineups.

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    Old Skool Clip Fan Reply:

    There’s no way Butler guards a 2. No way. Plus, while he is expending all his energy trying to, he’s gonna lose his effectiveness on offense, where he’s actually a major plus for our team. Stop the madness.

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

  8. avatar bongstradamus Said,

    We don’t have to make a move, but it’s a great time to make a move. There’s going to be a lot of traffic leading into and out of the All-Star game. The China Syndrome and the D-12 Madness are going to mean a lot of activity will be happening. Opportunities will exist.

    I’m right there with you, I think the priorities are the 3 and a project 2.

    Now that my hopes for Wilson Chandler have been dashed, I’d love to see Olshey score Terrence Williams from Houston for picks or one of the small contracts. Kid has gobs of talent and plays 2-3. That would be the value play. Whoop!

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    JaySee Reply:

    We could get Williams for nothing with Aminu’s trade exception. He’s fallen out of the rotation at Houston. Maybe throw in Cook or a 2nd round pick.

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    Clips4 Reply:

    Terrence Williams wouldn’t be a bad pickup either, but he, like JR Smith has been a knucklehead with bouts of immaturity. If he can get is career back on track, maybe. He is still young and has all the tools to be a solid defender. He needs to work on his shooting though.

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    bongstradamus Reply:

    You’re seeing what I’m seeing here.

    Yes, hes got maturity issues. But the kid majored in swagger and minored in clutch during college. He wont have expectations to start and get 20 shots a game and while he does show boat, I havent heard about any latent insanity and I know he can pass the ball. He can pass the ball really well actually.

    That makes him worth the risk. He has all the right tools to be a star in a good situation.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    I have followed T-Will’s career from his Louisville days. He is NOT interested in a sixth man/sparkplug role…and if Rick Adelman and Kevin McHale can’t get any production out of him, there’s NOW WAY VDN will. Flashes of brilliance. Nothing more. He should go to China.

    That said, LA would be a great destination for him, he’s quite the going out around-town kind of a tweeter and loves hitting up clubs. Scene and be Scene!

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    JaySee Reply:

    If the Clippers did pick him up, he’d be contending with Foye for the starting SG spot, not 6th man.

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    bongstradamus Reply:

    Rick Adelman never got a chance to coach him he was already fired before T-Will was signed by Houston.. He’s worked with Avery Johnson, who we all know is God’s gift to People Persons, and Kevin McHale who only crushes on men over 6’10″.

    I think he can be brought around. We have good character guys and he would already know theres no way he is going to be the focus of this team with Blake and CP3 here. He fits our needs. And could be acquired for peanuts.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    Adelman had plenty of time to give T-Will burn last year as he was acquired mid-season (December) from New Jersey and Adelman was fired during off-season. Do your research bro. Also, his contract is expiring, if by “peanuts” you mean a 1st round pick or two second rounders, ok – but Morey will not take on guaranteed money for T-Will.

    @Jaysee – If Terrence Williams is your starting SG, you are in serious trouble.

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    Posted on February 9th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

  9. avatar Benoit Benjamin Buttons Said,

    We need a defender like Tayshuan Prince was 6 years ago! Long and lean that will give Kobe fits. I hate to say, but I agree with DD that losing Bledsoe would me a mistake. So it looks like Mo and a conditional first for a young 3 that can defend and hit open 3′s.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    amazing. all you guys were praising the kenyon martin signing, saying how important interior depth was, and are now bitching about the wing defender i said this team needed even more…

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    JaySee Reply:

    While I also said the wing defender was more needed than a big man, the other people are worried about the wing now because we have Kmart and lost Billups.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    Losing Billups and/or Mo Williams and/or Caron Butler or even CP3 for a large portion of the season (if not all of it) due to injuries was practically a given if you look at those 4 guard’s histories. There was no way they were all going to stay healthy all year. I can assure you the problem with the Clips’ defense has little to do with Blake of DJ, it’s the glut of slow veteran guards/wings on the perimeter. CP3 is an average defender, he racks up a lot of steals because he’s so smart and he favors cheating passing lanes over staying in front of his man. Blake and DJ are young, their tendons are made of pure elastic rubber, and they will stay healthy. Olshey should have known that the perimeter was where he needed more depth, even though at first glance it didn’t seem that way. But Tuff Juice, Big Shot, CP3, and Mo Williams are either old or injury prone. That’s a fact. CP3′s play more than makes up for that. The other guys…not so much.

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 1:09 am

  10. avatar Jgroove Said,

    Guess New Orleans wouldn’t trade Ariza huh? He could play the 2.

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    The Outsider Reply:

    that would be shortsighted. ariza’s contract is toxic.

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 1:34 am

  11. avatar Tim Said,

    I’d like the Clips to make a move sooner than later so we have enough time to see if a quick fix is all we need, and I think a quick fix looks like this. The Blakely name kept coming up enough times for me to think this kid might be able to help, and come for a cheap price without having to give up anything. So, back up Foye with Blakely, and move forward, see if we can coach up Blakely and Leslie as well. I still think with normal production, we have enough offense. For those of you who think we need a defensive stopper from the 2 spot? Fine, Blakely and Leslie! Problem solved!. Not willing to mortgage the future, when we possibly have enough pieces right now. They should do something now, to make sure it has enough time to make a difference before the trade deadline. But mostly, Mo has to step up, and stop being disappointed about not starting. 5pts in 34 minutes vs the Cavs, is an outraged!

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 11:19 am

  12. avatar Metal Matty Said,

    The fix we need is a mental fix. A small one.

    We still play from behind. We still give up big leads all at once.

    I HATE loosing Chauncy but there is NO personell shortage on this team. We could use a two with length and defense, we could use a backup SF that has a pulse. BIG DEAL. This is NOTHING compared to what the Clippers of the past were missing as far as pieces.

    We’re doing great…. but it’s the “getting away with” mental lapses.. the “getting away with” letting a bottom feeder hanging around…… that has directly led to the two or three unacceptable losses this year. If you add three wins and subtact 3 losses from our current record we are top tier.

    I like where we are headed but I want SOMEONE held responsible for these lapses and some of these bad habits that remind me of Dunleavy Era mentality.

    VDN, you’ve gotten this team off to a good start….. but THUS FAR, I have not seen where any of it is really your doing. Time to step it up. You seem to get along with the players and at times they have come up big. I WANT to be invested in you but you gotta show me a little more, because as is, I am pinning our success this year almost directly on Paul and Billups leadership. And I’ll throw a bone to DeAndre for taking the money and still coming with an improved game.

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

  13. avatar Juan Said,

    As good as Clips are (at least on paper) they need Togo through the heartbreak of a playoff series loss. The closest to a 2 is Mo and there just might not be enough balls to go around with him as a starter. Now him and KMart and Bledsoe make an impressive 2nd set of starters. Throw in Evans to clan up missed shots and all that’s left is the need for a rebounding athletic big (something like Camby) so that any lead can be maintained.

    Why not go after Gordon at the end of the year?? He will be RFA and since NO doesn’t want to get saddled with a huge contract while there is no new ownership and Clips will have plenty of expiring contracts, plus amnesty, this should work. So that lineup that every one wished for at the beginning of this year will be a reality. Come on Olshy….I believe!!

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 12:39 pm

  14. avatar Tyler Said,

    Maybe its because I only have one season of Clipper glory days to relive, but I say somebody gets on a phone and calls Quinton Ross

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

  15. avatar Tim Said,

    We all know GM Danny Aigne wants to blow that thing up in Boston. What would it take to get Ray-Ray? A better version of Chauncey!

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    JaySee Reply:

    Young potential not at PG and a draft pick, things we don’t have.

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    Tim Reply:

    Any possibility of a 3 way deal to get Ray Allen?

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    Jgroove Reply:

    Dreaming.

    Although if KG would be a back up next year I’d take him. I think he’ll retire a Celtic though.

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    Clips4 Reply:

    Ray Allen is too old and he can’t defend.

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

  16. avatar Tim Said,

    Lastly, control the paint, defensive rebounds, and get out in transition. Clippers need to bounce back and keep the trend of not losing back to back in 2012! No excuses, lets get it done!

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

  17. avatar DeMote DeAndre Said,

    The Clippers caught a break tonight because the Sixers’ starting center is out with a bad back. That means they have to start the rookie out fo USC, Nikola Vucevic. Hopefully, that means the Sixers won’t be able to work DeAndre Jordan as badly as most of the other teams have worked him the last five games.

    The only opposing center from the last five games who didn’t have either his best or second best offenseve outing of the season against Jordan was The Wizard’s Javelle McGee. and that’s because in addition to McGee’s inherrent inability to score (he’s as bad as Jordan), the Wizards had played the night before in Toronto and McGee was pitiful through the whole game.

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

  18. avatar Lou Said,

    Thank DMDA for your always positive and instructive posts

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 3:56 pm

  19. avatar DeMote DeAndre Said,

    All this talk about trading for a guard is way off the mark. Bledsoe shouldn’t get traded for anybody but Howard. Mo Williams shouldn’t be traded for anybody but Howard. Any trade is inconsequential unless it’s for Howard.

    The NBA trade deadline is March 15 . . . five weeks away.

    DeAndre Jordan, Mo Williams, Randy Foye and a future #1 to Orlando for Howard. The Clippers are the best place for Howard, and he surely knows it. He can dictate the deal.

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    bongstradamus Reply:

    Thank God you arent a chemist because youd blow up the lab.

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    clipperbull Reply:

    Hysterical.

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

  20. avatar brad Said,

    Reggie=Beast

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    Posted on February 10th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

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