We have a great chance to become a great team… Jerry Sloan is available we can run the Stockton/Malone offense for the next 10 years. He run offensive plays and know how to coach. Let’s not blow this one we are on our way up….
this. there are a bunch of good head coaches available this year, but personally I think Sloan is the best of them.
Sloan would be great…he is the type of coach that can coach any team to the playoffs so just imagine what he could do with Blake and Chris!
Imagine what he could do in a major market with an owner that has deep pockets if he led a small market Jazz team to the playoffs for 2 decades.
CP3 is a carbon copy of Kobe Bryant. Without the ball in their hands….they’re hapless FISH out of pond.
They make no one better but themselves.
CP3 is a point guard, the ball should always be in his hands. Paul was 3rd in the Association this past season for assists, and probably had the lowest turnover percentage amount starting point guards, so why would you ever want the ball, not in his hands? Chris is dangerous when playing off the ball as well, because he can slash and score, or spot up shoot, your post makes no sense.
I am not saying, that he’s not a great player. But I have doubts about inegative impact he’s having on our Anti-Griffin offensive tempo. Didn’t you see him dribbling 50 times in 20 seconds and crawling painfully towards the frontcourt while Griffin, DeAndre and other 2 waiting patiently for the arrival of Prince Charming?
Regarding Vinnie…he has a future in broadcasting or GM circles. Good bye.. Vinnie. You have done a decent job.
Why can’t he handover the ball to other wing players for 3 sconds before he make himself comfortable at the time his arrival? If wing players can find weekness in defense, they can too facilitate scoring.
Most laker lurkers don’t….
First we must rid oursleves from vinny del negro before we start talking about the coaches on the market.
You guys need to find a format for call-ins. There are PLENTY of active commentors that I’m sure would gladly chime in with questions and opinion from ClipperNation. I’ve been telling DJ this is a necessary addition since last year. Hell, I’d probably call in every show myself.
can dj take the bashing!?
We’re going to start bringing in commenters to our new CBL format very soon. Would love to make this more like a “radio show” type thing where you guys call/hangout in and ask questions, give opinions, that sorta thing.
DJ, keep me posted on this because you know I’d love to come on and chat it up with you guys.
Word. Will do.
I like innovative stuff like this. Keep it up
Can you guys get David Thorpe again to talk about blake?
1. Nate McMillan-amazing coach, always kept portland in playoff contention until his players drove him away. He didn’t get much effort from his team though (see: away record)
2. Jerry Sloan-Another great coach, but his no nonsense attitude on a young team worries me. and we all know what happens when him and his players have a feud. He lost some of his credibility when he left mid-season
3.Stan Van Gundy-A good coach, but he has trouble communicating with his players. He developed Howard well, and he could do the same with griffin and DJ, but he is not the most likable guy and i don’t think he is as good as the other 2
so there we have 3 great options, so MAKE IT HAPPEN OSHLEY
i don’t think the strikes against SVG hold much water. the only 2 guys that had problems with him were shaq (who clearly wanted pat reilly) and dwight (who has no idea what he wants). all of his other players have played hard for him. the 2003 heat overachieved with a young wade, caron butler, and lamar. this year in the playoffs his team competed hard against the pacers even though they were completely undermanned and were starting glen davis at center.
that being said, i totally agree that any of those 3 guys you mentioned would be great coaches for the clippers next season
note to add to McMillan: He kept the Blazers in the Playoffs despite several major and infinite injuries on that team which shows me 2 things that VDN completely lacks: adjustments and player management/rotation.
Doc Rivers, for instance. lost Jeff Green right off the bat, he was a key player for the Celtics this season. then they also lost for the season another 2 importants guys, JO and Wilcox. the Celtics had Allen and Pietrus out for many games late in the season and despite all that the Celtics had one of the best records post-All-Star break.
I think that McMillan accomplished a lot, not just with the injuries, but last season they traded a lot of players too. he was fired simply because the Blazers needed a change more than incompetence or lack of trust, the Blazers have been suffering with injuries for a long time, now they gave up Oden, Roy retired and they fired McMillan.
those 4 guys – I’m including the other Van Gundy – are capable guys, any of them is plenty for the Clippers. I don’t think the Clippers are in any position to be too picky if they really had a chance to hire one of this 4 coaches. so, unless you really have a choice to make, pick the first that comes up.
McMillan got fired also because The Blazers are a complete mess right now. Kevin Pritchard got fired after the great job he did to reassemble the roster and remove them from the days of the “Jail Blazers.” His successor, Rich Cho did a fine job in his lone year there as GM and then gets axed.
Plus with Nate McMillan, CP3 has a relationship from their time on Team USA so that should help. McMillan did the best job out of any coach with the hand he was dealt in Portland with all the injuries.
While I agree that I like Stan Van Gundy, as well as put the blame on Shaq and Dwight for his last 2 firings.. There was that players poll that came out, where SVG was voted most disliked coach amongst the players.. That may be because he threw Dwight under the bus to the media during that shootaround (I think the poll was taken soon after that). But it seems to hold some weight.
I think CP3 and Blake are consummate professionals, and hope they can believe in him as a coach.
my case against vinny
1. I never feel confident the clippers will score a basket coming out of a timeout. He just doesn’t draw up plays as well as I expect a good coach to.
2. I hate how he freely uses (wastes) timeouts in the second half. In close games the clippers often need a timeout at the end of the game and don’t have any left.
3. Vinny does not really make changes in the gameplan at the half
4. Sometimes i feel like he forgets that he has a bench. vs the spurs game 3 3rd quarter, the spurs were scoring at will and the clippers were not making any buckets. i believe we went over 7 minutes without scoring a basket. vinny did not do anything to stop the bleeding… nick young and bledsoe stayed planted on the bench the entire quarter.
5. I don’t think Vinny works the refs the way savvy coaches do. reminding them to keep an eye out for some foul or something that should be called. nor does he fight for foul calls for his players. i think if you worked the refs better blake wouldn’t have developed the persistent glare at the refs, because vinny should already be fighting for him
Throw the (coaching) book at him!! Preferrably, one the size of MDsr’s playbook!!
+1 on My case against Vinny
Two huge points that probably will be impossible for the Olshey puppets, who want to fire Del Negro in order to divert attention from the soap opera actor’s clueless ineptitude, to get past:
1. The Clippers went to the second round of the playoffs for only the second time in their history.
2. They had the best winning percentage this season of any season in their history.
For a GM who has no previous NBA experience except as Dunleavy’s secretary and ball boy, and has no experience coaching at all except as the assistant coach (again, ball boy) of a high school, and has no experience playing on an NBA team, a college team or even a high school team, well, for that GM to fire a coach who got the team to the second round of the playoffs for only the second time in franchise history and this season got the best winning percentage in franchise history, that high school intramural player better have one heck of a good reason and one heck of a well credentialed coach (Sloan, Jackson) to take his place.
good thing he doesn’t have to fire him then. just don’t pick up the team option for del negro next year.
Ya know who else doesnt have any experience coaching: Mitch Kupchak. He has more rings than he knows what to do with.
Coaching experience has no effect on running a franchise. Business experience, negotiations, talent evaluation and budgeting is what helps with being a GM.
Firing, and declining an option are two different things.. His contract is up.
Daryl Morey, Masa Ujiri, Richard Cho.. Theres a bunch of guys who don’t have much affiliation with basketball on a high level who have done a good job as a GM.. I think the problem in the NBA is that these ex-players get high level front office jobs, just based on the fact that they were good at basketball..
Just look at Michael Jordan, and all the terrible decisions he’s made in front offices.
All of these arguments I’ve been reading here lately about how some new coach is going to come in and teach DeAndre Jordan how to be a better center are embarrassing grasps at delusional straws. It’s impossible for anybody to make DeAndre Jordan better. He has bad hands and he has bad feet. He can’t catch or shoot and he can’t move his feet to get into position on defense, much less to score on offense. He’s got board hands and board foot.
The worst grasp at a delusional straw is the argument that because Stan Van Gundy made Dwight Howard a great center, he’ll do the same for DeAndre Jordan. That kind of twisted pipedreaming will make a persons head fall off.
In general, Stan Van Gundy is the worst posssible choice for coach because Dwight Howard can’t stand him. Howard would avoid the Clippers like the plague if Van Gundy was their coach.
Its not a completly horrible point that Howard wont play here if we hire stan van. I dont really think we have a shot at howard but I guess Olshey might be able to pull a trade off somehow. The rest of this post is complete bull shit though.
Howard is not for us. Just like they said when they shot down the trade rumors to the Lakers “Dwight doesnt want to play with Kobe. He wants to be Kobe.”
I don’t want Dwight anywhere near this team. I wouldn’t have said that a year ago, but he managed to kill his reputation with his antics this last season and was exposed as the two-faced manipulator he is.
I know I think way to highly of Cp3 and blake but I really think that dwight would respect chris paul. What he also would realize is if he cant win with cp3 and griffin hes just not a good player. He’d keep his attitude in check because cp3 wouldnt be cool with that and he would get such bad press if they didnt win with him.
I think dwight howard has a corrosive personality but when he is inspired and believes in the team he plays amazing. I dont think howards injury is serious, in fact, I dont believe their is an injury. Howard can be the centerpiece of the team if he needs it for his ego and I dont think chris or blake would care.
But yah howard is a scary prospect although for the right price I would pull the trigger.
There doesnt need to be a trial, we just need to make a “smart business decision” decline the option and be done with it.
Vinny did what he was tasked to do, and we’re appreciative of his time and effort, but at this stage we need someone who has more experience and can prepare us so that we can take it to the next level.
this trial would have been better if:
Andrew had worn a black robe…
DJ and Charlie worn awful – Craig Sager like – suit jackets…
Andrew should have worn a white wig too.
In Sports News:
Vinny Del Negro was tried today in LA county to face charges including gross negligence. After this trial he will be turned over to the custody of the Chicago Police Department to face pending charges in Chicago…
And now the weather, Tiffany?
actually there is not much to debate around this matter, really.
VDN got to go and we all know what are the best options out there!
First it’s a matter of time, by June 1st the Clippers need to say whether they will give him the extension or not.
Let’s assume they say goodbye to VDN, right after that they should pursue and hire a new coach to start making plans for FA, Draft and trades. Hopefully they will hear whether Mo will take his option or not so they can make a plan according to that fact, which is, BTW, pretty crucial. If I remember well that’s the difference between been under or over the salary cap.
So we can only wait, June 1st and then start to hear rumors, hopefully those rumors will include great coaches.
I hope that by the NBA Finals the Clippers already have a new coach. I think that the Clippers are pretty tempting for any coach wanting to contend.
Sloan didn’t say anything about the Clippers because theoretically they still have one, so as soon as VDN goes, I think we may hear him saying he wants to come to the Clippers.
From what I read, Stan Van Gundy wants to go back to coaching immediately and I don’t know about his brother.
I haven’t heard anything from McMillan, one of the guys from the ClipperBlog said to forget about him because he hadn’t heard about his name among those wanting the job but at the same time, I don’t think that any rightful coach would say anything about the Clippers while VDN is still under contract, it would be very anti-ethic.
So I don’t think that we should discart any of them right now, there are only two teams with no coach right now and that’s Bobcats and the Magic, if Sloan said he is interested in the Bobcats, why not the Clippers, right?
As much as I respect Jerry Sloan, I think his approach to coaching is out-dated. Stan Van Gundy is the best available candidate out there for this Clippers squad. His track record is far better than Del Negro’s, and he has shown his ability to make the most of the pieces he has. Blake and even the offensively-challenged DeAndre would blossom under SVG’s direction, and CP3 would work his magic anyway (even if he was coached by your local YMCA coach). For all the hoopla regarding SVG’s ‘feuds’ with Shaq and Dwight, keep in mind those two are quite the self-absorbed primadonnas. I doubt the same problems would arise with Blake/DeAndre.
This is soooo good. I love you guys!
@DJFoster You were wrong about only Phil Jackson winning a title first year he came to a team.. Larry Brown did it with the Pistons in 04, Riley did it with Miami in 05 (and they came in mid season).. Thats just off the top of my head, I’m sure they’re others.
Booyah! Counselor Foster, consider yourself served!
I thought lying is okay when you’re a lawyer?
But you’re right. Larry Brown, Phil Jackson and Dr. Jack Ramsay all did it in their first year with new teams. Not sure I can count Riley since he was already with the Heat organization in some capacity.
It’s a little different, but Riley DID win a championship with the Lakers in his very first year as a head coach in ’81. Although he had coached before, K.C. Jones won one in ’83 with the Celtics as well after a long break from coaching.
I’m probably missing a few other guys that won a ring with a new team in the first season. So yes, I was way off.
HOWEVER, I REBUTT (heheh). Rick Carlisle, Gregg Popovich, and Rudy Tomjanovich all won their first championships entering the magical third year with their teams — the same year Del Negro would be entering next season.
I would also believe in VDN IF he was really up there with Carlisle and Pop… huahahua… I mean, IF he was up there nobody would like him gone, right? hahaha…
But yeah, somebody had to defend him there, how did you guys decide who was playing whom?
wasnt DJ Foster anti VDN most of the season? not that it matters just think its funny that he is the defendant >.<
At the risk of speaking out of turn/being held in contempt, it would’ve been very difficult to find someone at ClipperBlog who could honestly argue that VDN is the best coach for this job. That said, counselor Foster, as he proved, is a terrific lawyer and did the best he could for a client he did not necessarily support.
Sterling, Roeser, and Olshey have proven over a very short period of time, that they are in it to win, and willing to make whatever changes are necessary to win big as quickly as possible. I appreciate that, as a fan of the Clippers, and Steelers, its a comforting feeling to know that your front office is fully capable of making all the right moves, and I think the Clippers are there, even if they haven’t won championships yet. The best move for the Clippers would be to allow Vinnys contract to expire on 06/01/2012, rather than fire him, so I guess we will be waiting another week. Vinny does not deserve to get fired, but he did perform well enough for the Clippers to pick up his option. Next move is fixing Olsheys contract status. Then I trust that the Clippers will then hire the best coach possible for the job, and I will support whoever that is, because I do have faith in the brain-trust of the organization. The great new coach will help the GM find players that fit his system as the roster gets another make-over in the offseason, and come September when training camp opens, the Clippers will hit the ground running. Lets hope everyone gets healed up, and come back ready to go, no stupid injuries playing pickup games at Venice Beach or what have you. 2012-13 Clippers will be the greatest Clipper run ever, so fasten your belts, “Oh Me Oh My!” Lets go get that ever elusive Pacific Division crown next year, and run deep into the post-season.
That’s what I’m talking about, Tim! As a fellow Clippers/Steelers fan, I support this message!
Good post Tim. The elusive Pacific Crown is not what it counts, the whole west is what it counts, that will be the next target for the Cllippers Management and players. By the way I am not a Steeler Fan. Unfortunetaly for me I am a Dolphin Fan.
Speaking of Olshey, I’m still baffled that he wasn’t voted the top exec of the year. Bird’s only solid move this year was signing David West, and he actually made a questionable move by trading away a player with massive potential (Kawhi Leonard) for a young PG when he already had Collison. What Olshey did this year was pretty amazing – traded for CP3 without giving up his own superstar Blake, gambled (and won) on signing Caron, gambled (and won) on picking up Chauncey, gambled (and won) on picking up Reggie Evans and K-Mart. I guess this year’s award was based on 4-year building plans rather than one year achievements.
Olshey got jobbed..One Laker guy said, the reason Bird got the award was because Bird is a name you know. No one knows who Neil Olshey is, there-fore he didn’t garner any votes. If a ballot showed up with Birds name and Olshey’s name, the natural thing to do is to vote for Bird. That’s the biggest crock of crap ever, but this is the general logic used by know-nothing Laker fans.These people call themselves fans because they sport a kobe t-shirt, and can say, “look at the banners”, what a bunch of losers. Olshey is still recognized amoungst his peers, within the inner-circles of the league, we all know that Olshey can hold his own behind closed doors in the smoke filled rooms where all the deals are made, our guy Neil with the deal is rubbin’ elbows, shaking hands, skin’in and grin’in and closing deals. Riding along in the golf cart, Olshey is busy spending Sterlings money, and getting back more than he spent, when its all said and done. The old saying that “its the clippers, so you know they’ll some way to screw it up” no longer holds any water.
VDN did not change the culture… lol..
all players chose to play for the nucleus (AKA slamdunk machine Blake) not vdn. lol
Initial round 1 for DJ. lol
only High pick and rolls and isolations. That’s right!!
out of time outs the out of bounds play the ball is given to CP3 and no really x0′s. lol
Round to for Jordan! lol
Nate Mcmillan went through similar adversities with lots of success. (well, in the begining of the season initially). so No VDN didnt have practice time but the game strategy wise was the same all along.
Bledsoe showed great speed last year as well. just no control. Ofcourse VDN as a coach has something to do but IMO the fact that he had to trust on him when it mattered. what good does an improved ebled does when he’s benched for no reason?..
Round 3 goes to Jordan. lol
VDN is a great dresser (itallian stallion! lmao)
VDN has a very good assistant coaching staff! Agreed!
Overall… it’s just hard to b on DJ’s shoes. The prosecutor’s counselor! lol
CP3/Blake combo won’t be here if VDN stays period!. well said. This trial is not about VDN alone but the future of the franchise! I entrust Olshey with the decision and to do the right thing to not fire VDN but not resign him. Great job guys!.
roleplay…ya’ll a bunch of dorks!
Hahahahaha. There is some truth to this. I think a majority of us are a bunch of dorks.
My problem with Vinny is that when u ask Bulls fans why they hated him, they list the same issues that Clips fans have with him.He hasnt improved as a coach and never had any coaching experience at the pro level before the Bulls job. He was an experiment in Chi and Sterling hired him for cheap. Time to get serious about the coaching position.
Pop has to have some tenured assistant mastermind helping out. Find him and sign him.
I’d even like to see Bill Laimbeer get an interview.
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