While i would have been happy(ecstatic) if we could have upgraded in the coaching department, this is not a complete disaster. Chris Paul and Blake like Mr. Bell Redgrow, and have stated so in interviews. As long as the core follow his lead, at least we might have a cohesive team on the court. On the other hand, there were SO MANY GREAT COACHES AVAILABLE, AND WE NOW DON’T HAVE A CHANCE AT THEM!!!
Simple question – What’s the silver lining to this? I need a heavy dose of the Kool-Aid!
Because an entire ClipperBlog Live cannot be spent saying bad words and throwing things, I’d definitely expect some silver lining brainstorming.
My silver lining is that the perimeter rotation can improve simply by getting rid of the players that probably shouldn’t be on the court with Chris Paul. If Neil Olshey returns and makes the right moves during the offseason, there’s no way Vinny Del Negro can trot out a lineup involving Mo Williams at the two or Randy Foye at the three because they won’t be there for VDN to put on the court.
If you want to build around a backcourt of Chris Paul and Eric Bledsoe, you probably only want guys who can play both the 2 and the 3 filling out the perimeter rotation. That way, you don’t get stuck in conundrums like, “well, Mo Williams is hot tonight, better leave him in even though he can’t defend any 2-guard in the league.”
You can’t make Del Negro’s choices for him, but you can at least make it really difficult for Del Negro to screw up.
Then, you’d have to think that with a full summer and a training camp, there will be some sort of a system for next year…
It would be way more disappointing if they failed to bring back Olshey. That would be the real mess-up.
There isn’t a whole lot of silver lining, but what there is is pretty well described by Arnovitz in this article. Especially the last couple paragraphs, where he gives the scenario in which the Clips pay big for a big-name coach that CP3 or Blake decide they can’t work with halfway through the season. At least with VDN, Sterling can cut him loose and try to salvage the team for the future, rather than lose the two players because he won’t fire a coach with a big salary.
There is now conclusive proof of alternate universes. For one season the Clippers won, made it to the playoffs, and looked like a potential dynasty that would dominate NBA basketball in years to come.
Don’t worry though. The timestream has been repaired and the paradox eliminated.
According to the Mayans, the world ends before we even have a chance to dread the next off-season.
Is VDN’s offense as limited as we think it is? is there any hidden plays that most people don’t notice. I am not too happy about VDN as a coach but at least it leaves our group as in tact as it was in the playoffs. What do you guys think?
VDN is way too liberal to become a good coach.
If VDN was liberal, Bledsoe and Thompkins would have seen more time on the floor in the playoffs.
The Definition of ‘liberal’ according to my dictionary:
“One who wants to enjoy life without any responsibilities attached to…and an expert in earning a living by not having a concrete workable plan to succeed.”
This isn’t the place for politics. You should know this by now.
Liberals implement things counter to conventional wisdom which means shaking up the starting lineup to get some energy in there. Carlisle did that by inserting Barea last year into the starting lineup against the Heat. Why would VDN choose to keep Foye in when everybody can see that he was basically useless? Bledsoe was the best player on the team in the playoffs yet he saw so few minutes. Thompkins would have been good at clearing up some space for Blake to operate because he wasn’t going to shoot his midrange jumper because SAS packed the paint daring Blake to shoot.
I have a hard time believing CP3 signed off on this. Does he NOT want a championship ring? This just crushed any possibility of that next season barring some massive injuries to the other playoff teams.
He apparently doesn’t think COACHES bring championships. Like AI the Great, he thinks of himself as a superman who can do it all; bring it all.
And say it all.
What was it that Neil Olshey said when we got CP3?? “We’re pushing our chips all in”. If that’s the mantra last year, why has it completely changed to: “We’re going to just eat all these chips, and shit them out a year later and hope it all works out for the best!”?
wasted yr number 2. Who is going to be Blake and DJ’s shooting coach this offseason?
I guess no matter who the coach was, they wouldn’t have beaten the Spurs this season with the current roster. The Clippers need to fix the problem at center first. I’m not a VDN fan and I’d be happy if they replaced him, but he couldn’t have gotten further in the playoffs.
Yes, a different coach couldn’t have gotten the Clips further in the playoffs, but at least have made the series against the Spurs not look so one-sided.
Its not about the spurs series that we just lost but how the season evolved. The clippers got a +500, but winning lots of games by 2 pts and usually with a last second shot. With pure athleticism if you ask me.
agree with both of you, but I don’t think DTS cares about that, just the result.
Center isn’t the biggest problem. We can get by with what we have. The real problem is finding contributing starters and depth at the 2 and 3. Those positions are more immediate because there are better players at 2 and 3 league-wide than at the 5. Other franchises are playing guys 6’8″ as centers, and still winning just fine. We need a guy(s) on the wing that can cover LeBron, Durant, DeRozan, Harden, Turner, Gay, Evans, etc. Randy Foye and Caron Butler arent going to do it.
Clippers need that too, but Foye and Butler don’t do as bad a job as DeAndre. Plus the Clippers need a center that can rebound and shoot a little to spread the floor.
Responding to the earlier post, “What we learned from the playoffs” . . .
The one overriding thing people should have learned from the playoffs is that DeAndre Jordan is an even worse center than people realized. He was the worst center in the Western conference playoffs, by far. Whoever the second worst center was, the guy wasn’t even close to being as bad as Jordan.
Clearly there is no way the Clippers could have advanced beyond the first second round with Jordan at center. They wre fortunate to get past Memphis in the first round, especially the way the Memphis front line was destroying Jordan.
Jordan played like a mid second round draft choice who didn’t even start in college at Texaas A and M and was drafted entirely on pipedream potential. Four years later, it’s not clearhe hasn’t improved and is incapable of improving and never will improve.
That’s what the Clippers learned from the playoffs. They also better have learned that they now have to get rid of him.
Riddle me this: Who is a bigger moron? DeMote DeAndre or DTS?
95% of you were saying how great a year DeAndre was going to have at the start of the season. For the record I’ve always said he’s a good 2nd string center and worth about 6-8mil a year. Even I was wrong on that one.
DJ was on the radar as a first round draft choice. He only fell to the second round because questions about his motor came up.
not to mention its hard to want an inexperienced guy who went to college for first yr in the 1st round. but he is turning out to be a fine steal in the draft
It’s a hopeful sign that Olshey is talking to Portland. If Portland hires him, the Clippers then may be able to get Portland to take Jordan. It’s going to be very difficult to get any team to take Jordan, especially after the horrible way he played with the national spotlight on him in the playoffs, but if there’s any GM who would take him, it’s Olshey.
Even if Portland doesn’t hire Olshey, it’s best if the Clippers don’t extend him a new contract. The Clippers have to get rid of Jordan, and Olshey is such a clueless pipedreamer that he likely won’t do it, but rather will want to keep trying to trick the fans into thinking DeAndre the Delusion is going to be good in the future.
So Olshey has to go, and the Clippers have to bring in somebody who can trade Jordan, preferably in a deal for Dwight Howard.
Also, Olshey was so clearly against Del Negro, that now with Del Negro back, Olshey will have to go just for that reason alone.
Without Olshey, we don’t have CP3. Step your game up!
Not at all surprised. CP3 wanted VDN for the sake of convenience and total freedom.
He deserves to finish his expected term. And Clippers are OK right now. Change is not always good.
Now, get LeBron James for CP3 and Mo Williams. Heat will be more than happy to accept that deal.
Heck, trade anyone but Griffin & Bledsoe for KING JAMES.
Yea, the Heat are totally up for trading the best basketball player of this generation. I totally buy that.
Bosh and Wade are more easy to acquire than LBJ. Wade because of age and Bosh because, well, hes Bosh.
The Heat are now LeBron’s team. Getting him would be like getting Pat Riley to trade Magic in the middle of the Three-peat season. In other words, damn near impossible.
LBJ deserves better. LA ishould be his final dream destination. He’s been wasting his talent until now.
Teaming up with GRIFFIN would make his dream come true.
There’s no way Clippers are going to offer max deal to CP3 unless you’re DTS.
Future of Clippers looks brighter with Griffin, LBJ & Bledsoe. This trio looks Leathal Weapon3
Del Negro staying wasn’t the best decision but hey if Blake CP3 and even Ralph Lawler are okay with it I’ll live with Vinny for one more year(let’s hope that’s it;and he can’t really get any worse can he?).
Anyways keep Olshey and sign him for a few years and then the disaster will be avoided
At least we’re all on the same boat here. Too many cons vs pros here!..With all of this team potential and we wont go to the promised land!. Major DTS FAIL!
I’m not trying to be sacreligous here, but is this about CP3 wanting control? Was the prospect of a system coach a turn-off?
Pritchard for GM if Olshey leaves!
Who really knows what CP3 is saying. That’s why it might be hard to fault or credit Olshey for anything. If CP3 and Blake want VDN back, then it’s good that they extended his contract. If CP3 needed DeAndre to sign with the Clippers, then they had to overpay for him.
“Tricks are what a whore does for money…. or cocaine!” ~ Job Bluth http://tinyurl.com/86gnm4t
Ok if Del Negro is coming back can we surround him with competent assistants at least. Also Neil Olshey needs to be signed and locked as our GM. That is the bigger worry for me. Don’t let Neil Olshey walk away please.
Did someone say, “have faith in the Clippers hiring process?” Lets not forget what team we follow here. I see the silver lining in the fact that, as soon as we got a new coach, we’d be stuck being the same old Clippers again with CP3 leaving.
Deferring to one player (Chris Paul) makes the franchise weak. I’m glad they didn’t allow Chris Paul to solely make the decision. His job is to play hard for the coach not make front office decisions. The Clippers don’t want to get Elton Brand’d.
One more thing, Vinny Del Negro is the perfect example of a players coach. There are more things about being a coach aside from X’s and O’s. Handling player personalities is overlooked. Also, there was no practice time this season with a virtually brand new team. I can’t believe I’m defending Vinny Del African American.
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