ClipperBlog Live: Commence Signings

05 Jul 2012

by Andrew Han

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Yeah! Can’t wait.
Tim

Questions ! What moves are left, is there any realistic chance of getting a Marcus Camby? What back-up bigs are out there, and what is Deandre doing this summer? Who is he working out with?
- The Blakers
  
  i think clips have a shot to sign him as long as he isn’t pissed at us for trading him or he gets a better offer elsewhere
- Clips21
  
  Camby doesnt want to play with the Clips….
Clipped

If we’re wasting 10 mil on DeAndre, why did we trade CAMBY?

Is DeAndre more talented than KMart & Reggie Evans?

Olowakandi, Kaman and now this innocent kid who doesn’t want to grow up!

Is there any way out from this mess?
- jetblackdave
  
  Kaman was an all-star if I remember right.
  - Tim
    
    The 11th hour, every other legit big was injuried, type all-star. Voted in by no one, added by the powers that be. Kaman is no all-star, he simply made an appearance at an exhibition.
avonhun

will someone please find accurate information about JC’s contract? there are lots of conflicting reports going around.
- DeMote DeAndre
  
  I just read that the guarentees on third and fourth year of the Jamal Crawford contract “are small”, whatever that means. That could be why there are differing reports of how long the contract is.
  
  Two years isn’t as bad as four, but I still see it as a negative.
DeMote DeAndre

Ho-Hum on the the Billups signing.

It really doesn’t make much difference since I doubt if he even plays next season. He’s certainly not going to play at all before January, and even if he does play after that, he’ll be a shadow of what he was last season, and last season he was way on the down slope.

The contract is for only one year at about $4.5 *if* he makes his incentives. It’s probably mostly incentives and so the Clippers won’t be out much. It really doesn’t hurt anything, but it doesn’t do much good either.

It may be good for Chris Paul, and so for that and only for that, it might be worth it.

I’m guessing there were no other teams out there who would sign a 36 year old (next season) who just ruptured an achilles and is coming off of a season where his shooting percentage (36%) was the worst of his career. Basically, all other teams likely know it’s all over for him.
- Clips4
  
  The Lakers and the Heat were pursuing Chauncey Billups because of his experience. Plus Chauncey played out of position at the SG spot last year. Shows how little basketball you know.
Bongstradamus

Best line I think I’ve ever seen from an owner regarding fee agency:

“Sometimes its better to miss out on the right guy than to sign the wrong one.” — Mark Cuban
DeMote DeAndre

Nothing to get excited about with the Jamal Crawford signing. Overall, he’s not a very good shooter. Last year he shot .384 from the field, the worst of his 13 year career since his rookie season. 38% from the floor is bad. His career shooting average isn’t much better, .408 (also bad). He was .308 from three land last year. Not good.

Seems ilke Randy Foye was better than Crawford last season. Foye was .398 from the field over all, and he was .386 from threeland. Both are better than Crawford.

Also, Crawford is streaky and he often gets cold and shoots his teams right out of a lead.

Actually, I have no idea how this is suppose to be a good thing.
DeMote DeAndre

That’s a pretty impressive poll that was posted earlier from Real GM. I’m somewhat surprised so many people can see the truth of what DeAndre Jordan is.

“Who is the best center from the 2008 Draft class?

Hibbert 58.6%
B. Lopez 15.2%
McGee 4.6%
Asik 11.6%
D. Jordan 3.7%
Pekovic 6.3%

Total votes: 19978

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/poll/222022#ixzz1zn8DaE5d
- Clips4
  
  You remember where DJ was selected in that draft right?
DeMote DeAndre

Interesting quote from Hoopsworld that was posted on an earlierthread. Here it is for those who missed it.

“Sources close to the situation label the LA Clippers, the Dallas Mavericks and the Houston Rockets as very much in the mix, however all would want some level assurance that (Dwight Howard) re-signing after the season was at least possible before agreeing to a major transaction”

I found this other quote date July 3 from Hoopsworld by way of Pro Sports Daily:
“Another potential suitor has emerged in the chase for Dwight Howard – the Los Angeles Clippers.
The Clippers have become a “real and viable suitor” according to Hoops World.
Per ProBasketballdraft, the Clippers may be looking to move DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler, but that doesn’t seem like nearly enough for Howard. Jordan has three years and just under $33 million left on his deal and doesn’t exactly put up huge numbers (7.4 points, 8.3 rebounds and 2.0 blocks per game last season). However, Jordan is just 23 years old. Butler still has two years and $16 million left and is 32 years old. Bledsoe is in intriguing prospect, but you’d have to assume the Magic would want Blake Griffin back in any deal involving Howard.”

The Clippers should trade for Howard reagrdless of getting an assurance it’s not a one year rental.
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DeMote DeAndre

There are some reaons the Magic might take Jordan.

Jordan is healthy and doesn’t get injured. Bynum has bad knees and Brook Lopez broke two bones in the same foot at two different times, and that’s likely a sign he has serious problems with the bones in his foot. That’s what ended Yao’s career.

Jordan is signed for another three years at about $33 million. Bynum is signed only through this season and likely wants to go through free agency himself next year and pick his own team. He likely would prefer playing somewhere else other than Orlando. Lopez is a restricted fee agent this season and likely wants to shop himself around and see what the best off he can get will be. Those factors could muddle any sign and trade to Orlando scenarios. In general, Orlando hasn’t been a hot destination for players even with Howard there, so without Howard, the Magic likely will have even more trouble getting good player to sign there.

There is always the “potential” thing that Orlando can start pipedreaming about.
- http://barmapla.com FD
  
  I think the Nets and the Lakers have better offers. The only reason I could see Orlando trading him to the Clippers is if they don’t want the Nets or the Lakers to have super teams.
DeMote DeAndre

I just now read this at Hoops world:

“Finally, the Clippers are expected to give their Bi-Annual Exception to Ryan Hollins to join Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan and Lamar Odom in the front court.”

He’s not much. He is 7′, and surely he plays a littlle better defense than the current starting center. He may be OK as a back up to Odom, who should staqrt at center if the Clippers don’t get Howard.
Raptor33

Charlie, I’m interested to know how you would’ve put this upcoming clippers team together. I agree with many of your thoughts, and since I’m not as informed about lesser known basketball players and advanced stats as you and the rest of the cast are, I would be intrigued at how you would’ve prioritized the clippers needs along with players available, starting prior to the mo williams/ lamar odem deal.

Also, I have a question about sacks. I remember arnovitz saying some nice things about him on a recent radio show/podcast. And I really respect anything arnovitz has to say; however, what kind of input is sacks having on these deals that seem to be quite unfavorable. Is sacks not that great at evaluating players and their market value, does vdn have the final say on all matters basketball related, or is there something else behind all these questionable moves? You would think that with sacks, vdn, and andy all playing a part in the decision making, there would be some sort of checks and balances system right?

lastly, while I would say that the fo has not made any crafty deals this off season, can we at least applaud dts for no longer being cheap since the summer of dunleavy? (however, if dts is fine with having vdn, andy, and sacks spend his money, why wouldn’t he give NO some money as well? Was there more behind his departure?)
OJMayo

Three way trade:

LA Clippers: Howard and Signed and trade Mayo
Memphis: DJ and Bledsoe
Orlando: Marc Gasol, Travis Leslie and 2 first round draft picks from Clips
- Patrick
  
  Why would memphis want to do that trade? Its a great trade for the clippers but no one else wants such a trade.
- http://marinatedsports.tumblr.com MarinatedSports
  
  Haha, so sneaky of you putting Travis Leslie in there. It’s like buying a bunch of condoms at the grocery store and sneaking in a pack of gum so it “doesn’t look weird.” Touché.
- Bongstradamus
  
  Can you sign and trade someone if you didn’t give them a QO? I could be wrong, but I dont think Memphis kept the rights on Mayo when they refused to make him RFA.
- Clipped
  
  Griffin & Bledsoe UNTOUCHABLE.
  
  CP3 is available.
Hypajet

Why should the Clips trade Blake for a guy who just had his back fused? I would trade B Lopez in a heartbeat. U gotta consider Supermans health issue risky business.
extra

getting ryan hollins is ok that means we can be a running team at times slight improvement on defense but is trey tompkins going 2 play at 3 position we need a quick strong small forward because i agree caron butler legs will keep him from being a threat on the court i think he is weakest link on the clippers and probably nba nice guy but clippers have got 2 upgrade with a decent 3
clip23

Everyone judge the team with Chauncey in video as if he wasn’t any good for the team. Idiots. Go play your video games and wait for your fantasy football
clip23

Trade Blake? morons. Go find another team to root for. Get out of this band wagon. MORONS
Metal Matty

Great podcast, guys. I think you hit on a lot of points and the guest was excellent.

Just one issue I had. I think you guys got a little too much into the subculture of hating Jamal Crawfords defense and dropped the ball a bit. In specific, regarding finding minutes for Bledsoe.

Crawford is a bad defender BUT….. I don’t believe he is any worse defending SF’s in a small linup than he is ad defending SG’s. He is not worse as a defender really than Mo or Foye… or Young, I suppose. And NO WAY he is worse defending non post up SF’s than Caron is.

Therefore, playing Crafword as a SF in a small linup is not such a bad idea. A linup of PAUL, BLEDSOE, CRAWFORD is as good as PAUL, BLEDSOE and BUTLER defensively in “some” cases and is much better than PAUL, CRAWFORD, BUTLER.

But, I do agree with what one of you guys said that Bledsoe can play with Crawford. That on paper seems like it has some synergies.

As far as Chauncy… agree with Charlie that he realistically was not that good last year even though the team clicked. This year, I find it hard to beleive he will soak up a ton of minutes.

We still have a few holes if Odom cant play SF and we need ONE, not two, more decent bigs. But those holes are reasonable.

Overall, I love the Odom signing and in comparisson to what else was out there I think Crawford was by far the best player even if the contract is not great.
Metal Matty

BTW, my comments that Billups was not realistically THAT good last year and that he will probably not soak up a ton of minutes this year was not meant to diminish his importance. He’s important. …. his role just is not anything like what it was even 5yrs ago. Would be nice to see him return and contribute both as a player and as our de-facto head coach and moral officer.

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