ClipperBlog Live: Clippers 112 Mavericks 90

05 Dec 2012

Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Clippers

by Andrew Han

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Patrick

Hey what do you guys think about the streakiness of the clippers team(Win 2, Lose 2, Win 6, Lose 4, Win 4) Is it the team still learning how to play with each other, them just playing better at home then on the road, just a streaky team in general, or something else?
But when there playing well, I mean, wow, seems like theres no way for any team to beat them.
- Andrew Han
  
  Damnit. Missed this one. Sorry, Patrick.
  
  I think the two losses were getting caught off guard. The four losses I’d break down as: three tough road losses to decent teams (I think OKC, BKN and ATL all went on win streaks after) and another caught off guard game against NOH.
  
  And GSW has actually looked decent so far. So if you look at their losses, CLE and NOH are really the only bad losses. Not bad.
Henry

Who has the best dunk of the night?
- http://twitter.com/DigbyHowis Digby Howis
  
  DeAndre off the feed from CP3 in the paint
thodge

Question. What would it take for you guys to get off VDN’s back? The coaching staff has definitely improved the team defensively and helped develop all our young players. I know rotations are the biggest complaint. Yet can’t we make the comparison that EB is like Aaron Rodgers playing behind Brett Favre? Maturing but not rushed too soon and allowed develop and watch an all-time great.
- Patrick
  
  If he never loses another game.
- Clips4
  
  If he can show he can make the necessary adjustments in a 7-game series and can diversify his offense that does not strictly rely on CP3 to create and improvise everything.
- Bongstradamus
  
  Hiring Jeff Van Gundy would get me off VDN’s back.
  
  He isnt developing the young players, hes letting them rot on the bench. Both EB, DJ and TT.
  
  His adjustment rotations flat out suck.
  
  He plays the wrong guys for too long, and lets the right guys sit on the bench.
  
  He played Chauncey into another injury.
  
  The guy acts like a coach, dresses like a coach, talks like a coach, but gets routinely out-coached.
  
  His wins are mainly a product of hero ball by superstars who are better on-court coaches than he is on the sideline.
  
  He couldnt draw up a winning play with 2 minutes left on the clock during a time-out to save his life. His 2 veteran point guards could probably come up with a better play during the course of the game, communicate to the guys and execute it without even picking up the dribble.
  
  James Worthy said it best: “Even counterfeit money looks real until you try to spend it.”
  - Clips4
    
    Stan Van Gundy, Jerry Sloan, Nate McMillan (my personal preference), Phil Jackson (deserves a look but not too sure with his system) are all also better options than VDN.
  - http://twitter.com/DigbyHowis Digby Howis
    
    Does JVG want a coaching job?
    - Clips4
      
      Not too sure. He has said in the past that he would like to get back into coaching; possibly as an assistant.
      - http://twitter.com/DigbyHowis Digby Howis
        
        No point wanting a coach that isn’t available :/
        
        I think VDN needs more time with this current lineup. I’m confident they’ll make WCF.
    - Clips4
      
      If he gets back into coaching though, the ESPN broadcasts are going to be more boring to watch.
    - Bongstradamus
      
      Of course he does. It’s the family business.
Reggie Evans Beard

Is chauncey really out indefinitely? I was really loving the willie green DNP’s and would be sad to see chauncey out for another season…
- Patrick
  
  At least in the report on espn they made it seem like it wouldn’t be that long.
- Andrew Han
  
  I think the official injury is peroneal tendonitis. My cursory research indicated it’s a common injury to athletes and people coming off ankle injury. So double-check for Billups.
  
  I’d guess he’ll be out 2-4 weeks and then re-evaluate?
w4ldas

didn’t watch the game, but it’s good to see caron going to the line, he’s a great ft shooter, he must be going to the line more often. but still, his dunk over kaman was quite pretty.
mini-manning

are we gonna lose bledsoe to free agency or trade? ESPN LA speculated about a Klay Thompson swap for bledsoe. Will we hang on to him or trade him? If so who is a feasible trade?
- Andrew Han
  
  It’d be impossible to lose Bledsoe to free agency. He’ll be a restricted free agent after NEXT season.
  
  I really don’t think Bledsoe will be traded this season because, at the very least, he’s positional insurance until Chris Paul officially re-signs.
Xebeche

How good do you think Trey T. actually is??
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Tim

You guys are killing me with the fire VDN line. I could go down a laundry list of things that Vinny has got done as Head Coach, that no other Clipper coach has ever been able to accomplish. He might not be the greatest X’s and O’s coach, but Hes’ Our Coach, we’re winning, and we are going to bring you Vinny haters right along with us to the title, kicking, whining and screaming along the way, just like the Spoelstra Haters. One thing is for sure, and Vinny can coach this stat!!! Regardless of X’s and O’s, its down to this stat, which is the difference between losing, and blow-out wins vs any opponent. ENERGY!!! Vinny is the 1 guy who can make sure they bring the ENERGY, so we’re good! Hate-on Haters, but don’t forget the score-board. Above .500 as HC of the Clippers, which no easy task.
- Clips4
  
  Tim, you forget though that Spoelstra has a ring and he was a Pat Riley disciple. VDN came straight out of the front office and announcer’s booth to coach the Bulls for his first job. Yes, VDN played under Pop but I said this before that playing for a great coach and working as an assistant under a great coach are two separate things. There are the once in a blue moon coaches like Riley to come out of the announcer’s booth to coach and be successful though. VDN does not have that in him. VDN, I would say, is the 25th ranked coach in the NBA in terms of how good he is. The other 5 coaches are rookie NBA coaches or coaches that have coached three years or less and have done absolutely nothing with their teams.There are plenty of better coaches that are not even employed by a team right now (Nate McMillan, Jerry Sloan, Jeff Van Gundy, Stan Van Gundy, and Phil Jackson).
  - Tim
    
    Vinny brought last years flawed team through a 7 game series against one
    of those coaching gurus (Lionel Hollins recognized as one of the best
    x’s and o’s guys), and had it not been for an injured Blake and CP3
    (recognized cornerstones of the Clippers franchise) the Clippers would
    have got through to the Western Conference Finals last year, against an
    OKC team that Vinny managed to win 3 out of 4 regular season games against last year. Conceivable that with a healthy team, as flawed as it was, and Vinny as limited as his coaching-ability may be, still had a punchers chance at the Finals.
    You Vinny Haters are killing me. NO one can say he didn’t get everything out of that team last year. Had Blake and CP3 stayed healthy, they would have gone much further, how easily you forget. Stop with the coaching junk-yard (Sloan, McMillan, Van Gundys and Jackson), this ain’t the Redskins Over the Hill gang. These re-treads are done, the game has passed them bye. As a coach in todays NBA, you have to be a communicator, and the Van Gundys have lost touch, and don’t connect with todays NBA-player, Sloans my-way or the highway approach doesn’t wash well, and even Pops throwing his players under the bus last year in the playoffs didn’t go over too well. Vinnys strengths are stronger in todays NBA than most give him credit. Today, its important that players genuinely like their coach, and everybody likes Vinny!!!!
    - Clips4
      
      Tim, again I have to disagree with you in certain aspects. Phil Jackson has 11 rings to VDN’s 0. Pop’s way of doing things cannot be disputed against because he has 4 rings to back it up. Sloan (I agree with you here) is old-school and may rub today’s players the wrong way. The Van Gundy’s have had time to refresh themselves and be away from the game a la Doug Collins to be able to change the way their coaching philosophies are to be able to handle today’s players (JVG more so than SVG). Nate McMillan is also relatively young and he has familiarity with CP3 via Team USA.
      
      You also forget that last year, Z-Bo (arguably their best player) was hurt for over half the season and did not look right in the playoffs. The Grizz also lost Darrell Arthur at the beginning of the season for the year with an achilles injury I believe and he was their other really good perimeter defender. When Z-Bo went down, the team traded for Speights from Philly and had to incorporate him in. Yes, VDN outcoached Hollins, but a one-time deal where he outcoaches a better coach is not a trend. VDN has routinely shown himself to get outcoached by better coaches (Poppovich, Doc Rivers). You say X’s and O’s don’t matter much. They do matter in the playoffs because possessions count for so much more than in the regular season.
      
      I’m not saying that VDN can’t be a great coach some day. I’m just saying he’s not a great coach today and could use some seasoning under a better coach to learn from them. Playing Bledsoe so few minutes is inexcusable. I see improvements in the team, but there is a huge trend with the team that I do not know if you have noticed but their half-court execution sucks. Anything that is not transition is horrible to watch. Plus their defense against dribble penetration and closing out on shooters is horrible. The players get the blame for it but it is also up to the coaching staff to prepare them and motivate them.
- Clips4
  
  Tim, what has VDN done that Mike Dunleavy didn’t do? At least in 2006, the Clips came within one game of a WCF berth if Sam Cassell did not have a mental fart by staying in the back court for too long.
Lawlers_Law

I ain’t no joke!

EricB gonna get paid in full come FA!
- http://twitter.com/DigbyHowis Digby Howis
  
  Even though I’d hate to see Bledsoe go, Klay Thomson is a gun at the 2 and is gonna be huge. I’d take him in a heartbeat.

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