I already posted this question on Twitter, but I was wondering about DJ tonight and his game. His body language looked like either he was tired or apathetic. I feel like he has regressed a bit or lost confidence. (Chicken/egg syndrome – lost confidence because of lack of minutes or lack of minutes because he regressed?) His post game looked bad against Gortat tonight and he forced the issue a ton. Opinions?
I wonder if NBA players go through a mid-season slump of sorts. Do some players regress as the season picks up? Is that regression usually temporary, or could it be permanent? Look at Jamal Crawford: the past few games, he’s undergone a cold shooter’s touch, but tonight, his 2′s and 3′s were good.
Speaking of 3′s, Blake’s 3rd quarter. Only Lawler could have put it best: “Oh me, oh my.”
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
Jamal Crawford, as we know is a streaky shooter – and this fact was not in the fine print of his contract.
We can only hope that the cadence of his streakiness peaks come play off time.
Didn’t ask this outright, but I think I did post this general question during the show. Hopefully it was answered to you satisfaction.
Thanks, Andrew. It was in the ballpark but more specifically, this was something that I noticed about DJ the past few games and all season in general. He seems to have come to accept that he will not get the minutes he needs/deserves and at times, that will sap his confidence and affect his body language and how he plays. VDN has the luxury of doing that to DJ because he can just play Odom and Turiaf now. As a still developing and young player despite being in his fifth year (can we consider DJ a veteran yet?) getting him the reps and rewarding him with more minutes for the hard work he has put in helps. I know it is not an excuse because I see DJ’s motor isn’t as high as Bledsoe’s and Bledsoe’s lack of minutes is unbelievable. Basically, is this way of messing with minutes sustainable when the playoffs come? We saw that Bledsoe was so tired during the playoffs last year when he started playing double the amount of minutes that he averaged throughout the regular season. DJ knows he’s going to have to be relied on more when the playoffs come to take the offensive burdens off of CP3 and Blake.However, will VDN trust DJ like he did with Bledsoe last year? Will VDN trust Bledsoe this year also? Will VDN keep going 10-11 deep in the postseason?
I think DJ is as streaky as Jamal, but in different ways. DeAndre is an adrenaline junkie and needs a hit to get fully engaged. I think he is growing (slowly) in his fundamentals, which will make him more consistent when that excitement isn’t there. Gonna go out on a limb here and say he’ll have a big match V BOS as the national coverage will pump him up.
I think Bledsoe is injured and that’s about the extent of it. I don’t think it’s any deeper than that. As he matures, he’ll learn to play/cope with injuries.
I know Bledsoe is hurt, but DJ needs the reps to practice what he has worked on. If he is not getting the opportunities to put into practice what he has worked on during the game, then all the hard work he put in during the summer is meaningless. Outside of improving his freethrow shooting and continuing to get better in his defense, I wonder what it will take for him to get more minutes because he is awfully expensive to keep on the bench to be playing so little minutes.
I agree and I think the coaching staff are aware of this. They weigh this sort of decision against the production they’re getting off the bench i.e. playing Odom into shape.
The luxury of playing reduced minutes and still winning is very rare. This will reap benefits in the playoffs.
It is rare, but when it comes down to it in the playoffs, it’ll be like last year with Bledsoe when he played more minutes in the playoffs than he had during the regular season and was gassed. DJ may get tired from playing so many minutes in the playoffs if he ends up playing a ton if he doesn’t play extended minutes now.
Clips4, please stop making stuff up. Eric Bledsoe was 22 years old last May. I’ve heard you run this take that Bledsoe was gassed so I researched it. I read some of the blogs from the playoff series vs Memphis and San Antonio. He was not gassed in the playoffs. No one came out in any blog to say anything negative about Eric Bledsoe. People were posting that he was the best player on either the Clippers or the Spurs in game 1, so how do you figure he was gassed? To steal a quote from the game recap of the Game 4 vs the Spurs, you the last game the Clippers played from their long season, where Bledsoe was gassed??? “The Clippers got another big game from back-up guard Eric Bledsoe in the
series. Bledsoe, who scored 23 points in the Game 1 loss, finished with 17
points, including 11 in the fourth quarter, when he helped keep the Clippers in
You act like Vinny suddenly played Bledsoe for 40 minutes. The most minutes he had was 26, and you are trying to say that a 22 year Eric Bledsoe in the prime of his life, with 0% body fat, chiseled with muscles galore was gassed??? I’m shaking my head man!
DJ and Bledsoe will not be gassed if they suddenly end up playing a few more minutes come playoff time. These are young men in the primes of their lives. They can run hoops all day down at the gym, and be no worse for wear. Bledsoe gassed? Now that’s hysterical!
I watched every playoff game the Clippers played and as each game wore on, Bledsoe got tired when he played heavy minutes. Bledsoe plays so hard and does not know how to pace himself. He needs the reps now so that in the playoffs when he is logging more minutes, he’ll be okay. If you look back to Blake Griffin his red-shirt rookie year, he played so hard and as the game wore on he got fatigued. He learned how to pace himself last year because of the extended minutes. Bledsoe does not know how to pace himself because he does not get the extended minutes now. That is why he gets gassed. You can only sprint up and down so much before you get tired.
Bledsoe averaged 10 minutes a game last year and played double the amount he did in the playoffs. When you play double the amount that you are used to you get tired. It doesn’t matter in how great of shape you are. Game shape is different from working out. It is like a marathon runner. The only way to train is by long distance and going hard at it. If you are not getting the reps in situations associated to the game, it’s very hard to so later once you’re out there in the game.
Bledsoe averaged barely 17 minutes during the playoffs last year, and his best performances were when he played extended minutes. Bledsoe most extensive minutes was 26 minute, 23 pt performance vs the Spurs in game 1, and he had 8 pts and 3 rebounds, a couple of steals in the 4th quarter. On such extensive minutes, for someone who was obviously gassed (but not really), that’s quite a bit of production there Clips4. I do not buy that Bledsoe playing 10 minutes during the regular season, and then ramping up to 17 in the post, resulted in Bledsoe getting gassed. His production alone proves that he was not. Bledsoe was not gassed, that’s all I’m saying.
If Bledsoe was gassed, why didn’t you point that out during the playoffs last year. I’ve read countless takes by you on here from last year during the playoffs, and never once did you say, “Gosh, Bledsoe is playing well, but he’s gassed!” I checked all the threads. Not you or anyone else said anything like that, but I’ve noticed lately, when trying to make points to back up an argument with regards to DJ’s inconsistent minutes, you suddenly determined that Bledsoe was gassed in last years playoffs, because of the same inconsistent minutes theory, fearing somehow that this year it will be DJ that will be gassed, because he is getting inconsistent minutes. It sounds good, but one problem, Bledsoe was not gassed!!! Its the inconsistent minutes argument that points the finger back at Vinny, which is the larger argument, and I get it. But Vinnys inconsistent use of Bledsoe last season did not result in Bledsoe being gassed, because no one ever brought that to the table in any argument when breaking down the Clippers last season during the playoffs. Do you think people can remember how fresh Bledsoe looked, and how he ran circles around the competition, how the opposition really didn’t have a scouting report on him? Other teams were scrambling to figure Bledsoe out. Why would another team invest time in figuring out a player who is gassed? Gassed??? No, not Bledsoe, not gassed. Never that.
Only saw the phrases “last year’s playoffs” and “no one said Bledsoe was not gassed.”
Just wanted to say that I think I said Bledsoe was gassed during the playoffs last year. I think Charlie, DJ and Jordan complained about it too. Can’t be sure, but I think it was Game 5 of the Memphis series. Maybe Game 6? I don’t recall without double checking, but I do recall the image of Bledsoe asking to come out during the 4th quarter because he was exhausted.
If this is not relevant to the conversation, then please ignore.
Game 5 of the Memphis series? That was the game that Bledsoe played a total of 5 minutes? Gassed after 5 minutes? Ok, maybe he was gassed after playing 5, because the game before that he played 12? hummm, I’ll have to go back and research it some more then, and yes, this is all relevant.
Ok, I stand slightly correct, so in Game 6, its true, you and Jordon did discuss the fact that Bledsoe was winded and he was, the term you used was gassed, but gassed means you got nothing left. Bledsoe subbed into the game with 2 and a half remaining in the 3rd, and didn’t come out until almost 4 minutes were left in the 4th quarter of a tight game decided by only 2 pts.Bledsoe played almost 11 consecutive minutes of crunch time playoff hoops, and the way he plays the game, winded is kinda what you’d expect. Gassed? That means nothing is left in the tank. They put Bledsoe back in the game a couple times before the end where he assisted on the final shot. A gassed player has nothing left, you can’t put a gassed player back in the game, he’s gassed. In a playoff series, do you really run a reserve player back out there who is gassed? All Bledsoe did from that point forward was get even better as a player, was solid in game 7 vs Memphis, and was the Clippers MVP during the Spurs series. Gassed means you got nothing left. Bledsoe was not gassed. I think the term was an over-exaggeration, but I noticed, other than Clips4, no one really latched onto the Bledsoe gassed theory. Gassed means nothing in the tank. I honestly think its ok for players to leave it all out there on the court, and catch there breath during time outs.
Gassed means you’re tired. I never said Bledsoe had nothing in the tank. If you re-read what I posted, I equated gassed with being tired from the logging of heavy minutes. =)
Regardless, with Bledsoe, if he plays 15, or 30 minutes, if he’s playing his game, he’ll be tired, or as you put, gassed In your terms, Bledsoe was gassed just the other night. Ever see Bledsoe do a post game interview where he struggles to catch his breath just seconds after the game ended? Yeah, he was gassed then too. Bledsoe is all over the court all the time. Are you worried that Bledsoe might get tired? That happens every game, at least it should, the way he plays the game. Consistent minutes has nothing to do with how Bledsoe applies his skill-set. You used the term gassed like its something terrible, that might happen. Bledsoe gets gassed every night, so what?
Funny thing is, the game fondly remembered as Bledsoe’s gassed game, he received an A- on the LobCity Ledger. Couldn’t have been that gassed. Gassed just sounds so negative. Heavy minutes? He averaged 17 minutes during the post season, that’s not heavy!
My long ass rant, and you “Only saw the phrases “last year’s playoffs” and “no one said Bledsoe was not gassed.” That’s it? That’s all you saw? Ok, just checkin’ Mr. Han.
Happy Holidays, Tim
Happy Holidays Mr. Han. Bring back the card game, that George McCloud card was awesome. I wasn’t sure if it McCloud or JR Rider, they both look alike, but Rider never wore a Mavs uni, but I could of swore he did during the game. I like checking out whats in Andrews old basketball card box. The scavenger hunt ain’t cuttin’ it! The card game, we can all play along at home, and guess. What am I suppose to do, bring something to my computer that I ate last week? It doesn’t work. Show me some old John Konkac or Shawn Bradley card show me so Detlef Scrempt. I want to see the old Marc Ivarroni 76ers card or something to bring memories, instead of watching Jovan search his humble dwelling for whatever you tell him to bring back. And so what if they don’t know the players from back then, it just shows how much they really know, or don’t know. Hey, us old-schoolers like seeing the old-school stuff.
DJ seems to be getting the ball alot farther away from the basket than he was earlier in the season, which seems to be why his offense isn’t as efficient. Managing both Lamar and DJ will be a difficult task going forward, as they eat into eachothers minutes and both need confidence
PS I really enjoy the podcasts and watch them most nights after the game, if any of the commentators like andrew or DJ want to catch a game live when in town, my seats are 13 rows behind the bench, shoot me an email if interested
We need more comments like these.
9.6 point average margin of victory puts this Clips team in pretty rare company… is this sustainable?
Only problem I see with the Clippers is that they match up poorly with the Thunder. They dont have anyone than can guard Durant or Westbrook. Guarding Westbrook, CP3 would have to exert a ton of energy, and westbrook would likely still average over 20 in a series. And who is gonna guard Durant? I think the Clippers could beat the Spurs, Heat or Knicks in a series though.
Barnes on Durant. Bledsoe on streaky RW
While there have been personnel changes losing Mo and Foy, if one reviews the matchups vs. the Thunder last year, the Clips did quite well. I think the Clips can handle the Thunder fine – probably better than anyone else in the West. CP3 had his worst game of the season the last face off in OK and they took them into OT.
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I second Andy. I sit court side in between the clipper bench and ralph & mike. I also go to the media room most games. Would love to talk clips at the games.
i think CP’s hot start was due to the 30+ fam members he had in the arena…
jovan wins the “wet blanket” award of the night…he needs to stick to usc sports…
he’s always a “wet blanket”
13th straight awesome – come playoff time we need another shooter defender at the wing position athletic 4 sure – cp3 & blake r bringing it nite 2 nite impressive – super matt barnes, crawford, imprtant odom nice game – bledsoe u need 2 mature a bit don’t let ur turnovers affect ur defense not a good defensive game u can do better – woooo dj what is disturbing he was embarassing like he forgot how play, not aggressive on defense it should be his calling card needs 2 mature acts lke demarcus cousins on court not dong anything positive – ryan hollins continue 2 play good his athletism will be needed don’t foul so much we need u 2 stay in games pay attention
errrr, what happened at 30:15? Too much Cemita poblana for lunch? >:)
I’m really starting to like the over establishment of players in the clippers line up. At this point in time, the glass is half full – I don’t see a shortage of minutes for bench players but the ability to play match up boggle as we progress deeper into the new year
OKC lost, which means, a win tonight, and the Clippers will have the best record in the NBA!!!! Go Clippers!
Clippers dominant in that 1st half. Nice what I’m seeing from Lamar on the boards.
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