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Was this loss a product of bad execution, bad sets to get easy buckets, lack of sets to get easy buckets,, short-handed personnel, all of the above, or some random hodgepodge?
Not to mention lack of energy, no continuity, no spacing, no movement, no adjustment…..most of all. No real point guard
The offense looked lost. I think having CP3 be the main cog of the offense is detrimental to the team when he’s not in there.
okay it will look like im just asking that cause the clippers got destroyed but im serious here.
Who and when was the last pointguard in this league that had average courtvision/playmaking and no jumper to make it big in this league? Tony Parker?
Is this loss worse than V Cavs / NOLA at the beginning of the season?
This game showed the mental weakness of the team without cp on the floor. When Bledsoe or Crawford or Blake made mistakes they could not get over it and it affected them on the next plays.
Cp was testing that knee during a timeout. I think he knows they cannot keep going without him even with the veterans and depth.
@fosterdj rock, paper, scissors.. you know it.
Blake plays soooo soft at times. Its so annoying. Thats why.so many people hate on him. Too many nights, his game doesn’t match the hype. During that huge Tor run, he.was basically.a spectator out there. No shooting and no rebounding. Then add horrible D.
Del Negro doesnt help matters. He really is a horrible coach. Worst coach of any of the playoff teams.
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Is it just me or do the “Home,” “Featured,” “ClipperBlogLive” tabs not working anymore?
work for me fine
I meant that once you click into an article or a CBL, the Home, Featured, and ClipperBlogLive tabs stop working
oh! you’re right about that! links don’t work outside of the home page.
Thanks guys, we’ll look into it.
vinny del negro continues 2 start willie green when he does nothing right he should start jamal crawford even though he is not a starter put willie on bench, need another wing player that as athleticism and shooting abilities, concerns about clippers: chauncey is old and coming off a devastating injury that he will never recover from, cp3 still as not recover from a knee bruise is there something more happening with his knee? If so cp3 cannot be affective against quality teams in the playoffs, grant hill looks slow and protective with his knee he is 40 question how long can he sustain any excellence? Can he be a factor 4 this team in playoffs? Lamar odom as been great on defense, rebounding, play making, instincts, but his shooting is almost non-existing if he could just give 12-18 pts. it will be helpful and critical componet in playoff basketball – come on lamar got 2 do better we r counting on u, eric bledsoe why is he not running or causing turnovers where is the agressive nature in his play, he seems dead and lethargic, I am used 2 up and down basketball gambling physical play, I understand u r learning 2 play point guard it knocks off some of ur agressive play but be the best defensive point guard in the business steal help ur teamates be smart get deflections, rebound and make easy baskets u can do that – dj as 2 be and impact player, what I mean by that set great screnes 2 get eric and caron open, sweat get dirty hustle 4 loose balls, get deflections, get 15-20 rebounds run the floor he should be tired not looking fresh get a smart foul 2 stop momentum of other team not a foul that costly when u do not need it, play smart be physical earn ur paycheck
I think in seeing the team now with a large enough sample size of what it looks like without a true point guard running the offense with CP and Billups hurt, we see VDN’s flaws. I say this even with Barnes’ suspension against the Raptors. I think that even an average point guard like Steve Blake or Chris Duhon could make this team go because they are smart enough to make passes. The more I keep watching video breakdowns of LAC’s offense and do comparisons from a couple years ago with the Jazz and Blazers, the more frustrated I get. @Bballsource on Twitter has no clue what the heck the Clippers run and that is an indictment of VDN. I am now convinced that this team’s success is a product of CP3′s greatness and that masks VDN’s flaws. VDN’s improvements have just been marginal at best because his players and personnel have improved. All VDN does is swap in lineups. In terms of defense, yes the team has improved and that could be attributed to VDN’s growth as a coach. However, it also shows the growth of DJ, Bledsoe, and Blake on defense. This team has players with championship experience in LO, Caron, and Turiaf and these guys have been in the league for a long time and are well-respected veterans unlike K-Mart, Swaggy P, and Mo WIlliams (malcontent at being the 6th man).
With that, getting to the half-court set is an indictment against VDN. I was watching the breakdown of GSW vs. DAL a couple nights ago and they kept running HORNS to great success. LAC’s offense is primarily pick and roll. However, because Bledsoe, Caron, Hill, and Crawford are not adept at running the pick and roll as the ball handler, it stymies the offense. Bledsoe does not curl tight enough off the screener and does not have great court vision. Caron is just too slow as is Hill. Crawford does not have the explosiveness and passing ability to take advantage of a roll man as he does not drive to the basket much.
With that being said, running HORNS to get off-ball movement especially with the starting unit now that CP3 is out allows the triggering of other sets that VDN says 80% of the NBA, In HORNS, the 4 comes to the top to get the ball from the 1 as the 1 can dive to the weak or strong side to set a pin-down screen for either the 2 or 3 to come up which triggers a flex set allowing for multiple options like a 4/5 pick and roll we’ve seen Blake and DJ do or a baseline cut with what Barnes can do or some other set like a UCLA cut for CP3 or in this case Bledsoe. I say run this type of play more because teams are just daring Bledsoe to shoot from 18 feet. Bledsoe needs to get more shots at the basket because in the playoffs last year, he thrived in the paint.
Watching all these breakdowns of plays reaffirms that VDN as great a motivator he is is not an X’s and O’s guys. It’s great that he gets along with his players. However, at the end of the day, great coaches are not just great motivators but they do actual coaching. Phil Jackson never calls out plays in the triangle offense because he teaches the players the basics of the system and then the players have to read and react to it. With VDN, he prefers a pick and roll heavy offense. Once the initial pick and roll is stopped, the offense stymies because there is no weak side action as all the other wings just stand on the perimeter as the offense dictates the shooters to spread the floor. Barnes is the only guy on the team who is smart enough to know not to stand around and he cuts which helps provide the extra option available. Like I said before, this is a product of the player knowing what to do instead of VDN doing actual coaching.
I’m all for a new coach for LAC next season as VDN is not the right coach for this team unless VDN takes this team to at least the Western Conference Finals. Even if we get to the Western Conference finals, if we get blown out each game, that will be sad. Even without CP3 and Barnes and Chauncey, this team had more talent than the 2010 Portland Trailblazer team that won 50 games when half their team got destroyed with injuries and Nate McMillan went down with his own Achilles tear.
For all those people thinking Eric Bledsoe is a nice security blanket if CP doesn’t resign, please understand. Bledsoe is a nice NBA back-up point, one of the best in the game at the back-up spot, but against the starting points in the league, EB is just not there yet. No reliable go to jump shot, and he fails to finish in the lane far too many times. Starting points generally protect the ball better than back-ups, so all those steals that CP gets, are amazing because they are coming against starting points, but EB can’t generate that same production from a steals standpoint vs the starting NBA point guards. He can dominate the back-up point guards and cherry pick steals off that level of competition, but the John Walls of the league aren’t serving up TO’s to Bledsoe. CP creates those TO’s vs top quality players, and CPs game is not predicated off those turnovers because he can run transition, or slow down, operate the pick and roll, and has the reliable jumper to get points. Bledsoe relies totally on turnovers and transition points, but against starting quality point guards of the Association, there are no turnovers to be had, so his game is stuck in the mud. And that Marcus Camby like set shot is not working. Bottomline, we need Chauncey back to start until CP comes back, move Bledsoe back to the Tribe, and see if Chauncey can bring back Lob City, because Eric Bledsoe is not a starting NBA point guard. 18 minutes a game? People were crying earlier in the season for more Bledsoe. Vinny was right. 18 minutes is just about all the Bledsoe these Clippers can handle right now. He doesn’t have enough tools to warrant any more time than that.
DJ was right in that Bledsoe is not ready for the role he is in right now with CP hurt. I would think though that Bledsoe should study tape on D-Wade. Their games are similar as both rely on their athleticism. Wade coming into the NBA was thought of as a point guard but then became a SG. Now, he is still a combo guard because he can run the point sometimes when Lebron is not in the game. Wade though was a much better shooter than Bledsoe is now his third year in the NBA. Bledsoe needs to be treated more as an SG who can also play the PG instead of a PG who can also play SG. The only problem is that Bledsoe needs to completely change his jump shot mechanics this summer. For all the athleticism and hops that he has, a set shot for his jumper is terrible.
One other thing. Clips4, you and Bong definitely have my endorsement. I certainly hope both of you sign up for Clipperblog, and keep running your takes out there. Although I might not agree with everything you say, I like hearing your opinions, and your level of consistency on this blog is unmatched, so stay with it, even if they don’t pick you. That goes for Rodgriguez, FD, Ian, Lawlers Law, Just win, Digby, Griffin, Timmythetooth, MetalMatty, JaySee and I know I missed a ton of names.
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