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I would never rely on Jamison for defense, because he is generally awful, but could he actually be a better defender than Byron Mullens?
I refuse to accept any defensive statistics from this game as an indication considering that they will all be very heavily skewed by the Bulls’ bench in the fourth. I’m just looking for a scouting answer here.
This is not about stats, the system is about help D and switches, as far as I could observe he fit pretty well, he was doing the rotation right, didn’t end up in bad mismatches, he boxed out his guy and he scored.
I know it’s a small sample size, but he didn’t look lost like Mullens and even Hollins do at times, the system covers for not-good-individual D as long as you know how to rotate and you understand the system.
So far it looks optimistic.
I just meant that while the team’s defense looked better statistically in this game, we shouldn’t praise the defense because it was really the Bulls offense. Defensive stats for individuals rarely mean anything, so I rarely use them.
I don’t care about stats at this point and it’s not about individual D. I’m saying what I watched, he didn’t miss rotations and that’s it when it comes to this system. He held his ground and boxed out most of the times.
It doesn’t even matter if it was Bulls offense, what should be observed is how he fit the system, was he lost, did he do a bad rotation, those things WON’T appear on stats but in this system it’s all that matter and you can only know that by watching the game and the plays.
I’m not saying he will be great every game, even more with more creative offensive teams, but he looked comfortable in the system and that’s what you want from him, no more than that. He doesn’t have to be a great individual defender as long as he doesn’t mess the system up.
I’m agreeing with you, I hope you realize that. My comment about not using d stats for this game was just that the result wasn’t really accurate, even though the process often looked pretty good.
I just brought that up because you aksed for a scout report-like reply and I think that it meant to talk about the game per se, how he played, not about stats, which I did and then it got confusing when you reiterated about not praising the D based on stats.
Yeah I probly shouldn’t have made that second comment a reply to my first since it wasn’t related for the most part. The first was an individual thing (which should rarely use box-score stats) while the second was saying that stats for the whole team this game will probly be useless.
Sorry for the confusion haha.
To give you an idea of Jamison’s defense, here’s his Prevention stats from today’s game: 8 points, 1 assist, 1 turnover, 1 possession.
In 15 games, Byron Mullens has prevented an average of 1.6 points, 0.2 possessions, 0.2 assists, and 0.4 turnovers. This is per game.
I don’t think Jamison will be able to maintain that level of defensive activity over the season, but he certainly had a better defensive game than Mullens has had all season (to my uneducated eyes).
Here’s my question for CBL:
During the second quarter, Fully Clips editor Trisity Miller commented about Jamal Crawford playing more minutes than Reggie Bullock, which she believes is the right thing to do. I asked her if this has to do with Doc Rivers preserving Bullock for defensive purposes. Bullock ended up playing more minutes than Crawford because it was a blowout. Who should get more minutes, for what reason? Assume Matt Barnes is also in the lineup when he returns from injury.
Bullock isn’t getting preserved. The reason why he’s not playing that many minutes is that he’s a rookie and he’s basically third string on the depth chart.
And he basically lost all preseason, he was slowly getting more minutes even before Barnes last injury because he was probably getting more and more comfortable with the system.
As he should be, I might add. He has the potential to be a solid bench player in the future, but right now he’s a net 0 on the court. He doesn’t really hurt or help you, while Barnes and Dudley, when healthy, are both net +.
But let’s say he plays in Dudley’s place, wouldn’t he be a net + as well? I say taht because he has not the vet smarts but he is certainly more active, quicker and better fighting screens taht Dudley. Dudley’s lateral quickness and closing out plays are just pretty bad, he has been committing bad fouls on closing out shooters and a lot of guys have been able to pass by him. It’s very clear that he knows the game better than Bullocks but I think that experience can really help him.
I believe in giving Bullock more minutes for experience purposes as well, but at the moment I can’t say that Bullock is a better defender or better offensive player than Dudley when he isn’t being bothered by a none bruise.
No, I also wouldn’t go as far as he is better, but my point is that he can be better than him. Bullocks needs to get stronger to hold ground against some big SF like LBJ, Melo, George, Gay, etc. But he is active on D, which is always a start.
He has a very quick release with no hesitation, he can spot up shoot, come off screens, off curls, step back, one dribble shoot, etc. he really has a whole arsenal when it comes to shooting. Sure, still early to know how that translates, even more because playing with the starting unit the chances are that you’ll get better looks.
So, I think he has potential and that’s why Barnes’ injury can be a bless in disguise in his case, this can pay off well, even more because Clippers need better perimeter defenders.
I completely agree, I just don’t think he will get there this season. It’ll be a while before he can get there.
Dudley is the better ball-handler/passer, which I don’t think Bullock will be able to match, but he can definitely equal his shooting prowess and be a better rebounder/defender as his career progresses. He was definitely a good pickup by the Clippers.
Yeah, maybe not this season indeed. He is a good rebounder already though, that’s something that I noticed during those garbage minutes that he got before.
But with Bullock playing and Barnes back, Doc will be able to administrate better Dudley’s minutes to give him some rest to get 100%.
That’s my hope.
Would Rose have really made a big difference today? The Rose of this season, not MVP Rose. What if those jumpers weren’t falling today? I had a dream that Byron Mullens carried me on his shoulders after we won the Championship.
This type of things are just impossible to answer and most importantly, in the end, it wouldn’t make a difference. It would be an out of curiosity speculation exercise only.
I think his absence did make a difference… but more of a psychological difference. I think the team would’ve been depleted with his injury.
I think that saving Jamison can really be interesting because teams won’t have data to run anything specific against him.
Today everything went well but Jamison didn’t look out of place be it on offense or even defense. He kept the flow of the offense and did the right rotations on the other end, which is basically what this system stands for, rotate well and you can cover some not-good-individual D.
This is a small sample but at least it looks like a good sign.
do you need data on a guy that’s been in the league for 15 years???
Of course not! Why would you? You are correct! I mean, every player play exactly the same for different coaches and systems. If it’s the same player no way that he will play a different role in different teams with diferent needs.
You are right, it’s really silly to think that the addition of a player may change something in the way a group of people play. Even more because adjustments to different line ups and ways of play are completely useless late in the season and during the Playoffs, so sorry, so stupid and simplistic of me to think like that.
It’s so simple, if you have data of a guy, it’s like LEGO, you just add that info to the group and system and voilà! You figure it out everything you need to know about how he will be playing.
I can’t work out if that sarcastic or not…but I agree.
If you remove scoring from D-Rose’s game, he doesn’t become Ricky Rubio. He’ll become a 10 minute a game guy like Elton Brand.
Hasn’t the 2nd unit been playing better lately?
That’s something people are not really talking about but there were good stretches in the latest games in which the 2nd unit not only did not lose the lead but even extended it.
Collison has been playing better – even though he is still now running offense for the other guys like he was during preseason. Less Mullens-Hollins-Collison-Crawford minutes combo has been helping too probably.
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