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Is it just me, or does Hibbert get away with a ton of fouls based on reputation?
Maybe but I think that goes both ways for any team.
4 fouls on the bench the entire 4th is not getting away (those were blocks & disrupted shots)
Ever since the Warriors ejected Griffin unjustly, there has been an #EjectGriffin movement going on. Players are now purposely trying to bait Griffin into getting tossed, maybe even suspended. What do you think is the opponent’s primary objective: ruining Griffin’s game, or destroying his reputation so as to force the Clippers into trading him? Remember: the trade talks of Griffin for Melo began a day after his ejection on Christmas night.
You are overvaluing this “reputation” thing that is barely a thing to begin with, Doc and the Clippers couldn’t care less about that. And you are also giving too much credit for that Broussard’s report that had such a confusing line about two teams that had yet to talk each other but according to sources they were considering it and thinking about the trade??? How about that to make any sense?
It’s a complete nonsense BS that nobody should even mention anymore, it’s giving too much attention for one of the most stupidest reports about any Blake trade so far. Just read the response from Doc about that and that’s it, that conversation never ever happened.
But yes, teams will keep trying to do that to Blake and Blake will continuing doing nothing, except for making his FT and saying thank you for your stupidity. While other guys will continue to get techs and flagrants. Clippers didn’t capitalize West’s ejection properly but that could had cost the game for them. Blake is kind of ok with that because now he is making teams pay hitting his FT and that seems to be calming him down and helping him keep his cool.
And as somebody has noted, too often those plays come from vets. So it seems that vets don’t like him, they feel disrespected or something or who knows why.
My question was never intended to credit Broussard. In fact, Broussard’s hack report was one of the reasons why the Clippers lost to the Spurs a few weeks ago, besides the losing of Chris Paul which had a more grander effect.
My question was more geared on opponent conspiracy. The ejection of Griffin must have caught on to other teams to the point where “ejection baiting” is now becoming a legitimate basketball strategy. It almost worked for the Mavericks a few days ago. Also notice that opponents never use ejection baiting against other teams; it’s reserved exclusively for the Clippers. This is the equivalent of Jordan Rules. The more baits opponents lure against Griffin, the more it forces the front office into questioning Griffin’s championship mantle. And then that’s when the trade talks will start. Griffin understands this and has “conquered” his fear. But until the trade deadline passes, nothing is safe.
You have to accept what is out there, even if it fake, until the trade deadline passes. Then, and only then, will such talks stop.
But it didn’t work for the Pacers and it didn’t work for the Mavs either, it backfired pretty big. Dalembert’s flagrant gave the Clippers the FT PLUS the ball and that was big for the Clippers at the time.
And I can’t agree with your logic because Blake is doing nothing wrong, actually, he has been doing an excellent job and any coach or front office would be proud of his maturity.
He is not retaliating and putting himself and the team in a bad position, much the opposite, he is making opponents pay for getting cheapy at him.
Griffin won’t be trade, that’s a sure thing. His ceiling is too high and is not even straching that yet, plus he is still very young. Even the trade with Love doesn’t look so good, even more considering this New Blake. He is evolving exactly like the Clippers need to.
Right now Love and LA are getting the upper hand in most conversation but Blake is just in his 4th year against 6th (Love) and 8th (LA). And Doc is just starting his job I really can’t see a trade involving Blake happening even more this season.
Think about it, this is a team wanting to contend and they are doing pretty well and they are finally playing within the system and they are finally showing their true potential. Why would you ruin that by trading one of your center pieces and starting from scratch? That would be a big mistake for anyone that is doing well and wanting to contend. Which is different from the Kings, for instance, they weren’t good and they went after Gay to improve their roster to try to become a Playoff team.
It’s quite unthinkable that any top team would trade their star at this point. Teams that are doing well NEVER trade their star, even more in the middle of his contract. That’s why Knicks name came into the conversation, of course they would want that trade, they are NOT playing well, as opposed to the Clippers. So unless Clippers goes 0-20 for the next 20 games, chances of them trading Blake is 0.
Why not play Bullock on Paul George again? Dudley could help Charlotte, trade that guy. For anybody. Tolliver.
I’d had been nice to see Bullock but he wasn’t even dressed and I think he hasn’t played in back-to-backs since he was back so can assume he is not 100% yet.
Actually he only played the game against the Knicks and it was only 2 min.
I think that Doc had Mullens in his place thinking that Clippers would probably need some big bodies to match with the Pacers. But West was ejected and Roy and Scola ended up with foul trouble and Pacers played small ball and that’s not something that he could had seen coming.
clippers weren’t at full strength last year with bill ups on the bench and lamar outa shape and vdn for coach. but they were still wining games on the road why is this clipper team struggling more then last year on the road? but there a better home team.
I don’t think that that’s the best read on that.
First because the first big road trip happened right after Redick went down and as we can see, he is a big offensive weapon AND Clippers’ D was not very good yet. Bench was struggling a lot to play reasonably well. Clippers took a while to adjust to Redick’s injury, which only start to work after Doc moved Crawford to the starting line up so teams would stop doubling Blake all the time.
Second because of the tough back-to-back Clippers had on the road, even more the second team of each back-to-back.
Nov. 6/7: Magic (Clippers should had played better that game)/Heat
Nov. 20/21: T-Wolves/OKC
Dec. 25/26: GSW/Blazers
Jan. 3/4 Mavs/Spurs
Jan. 17/18: Knicks/Pacers
As you can see, the stat alone won’t tell the whole story, you gotta pu in context. Like any other team, they wouldn’t be as good as they are at home, but if weren’t for these other things, I don’t think the Clippers would be as bad as they look with their road record.
Griffin makes highlights, gets endorsement, he’s actually really good and will make you look bad, and he’s probably not part of some particular clique among some NBA players so this breeds jealousy, hatred. Oh he’s a Clipper too. Just speculating. Griffin plays hard. He embarrasses you, but he’s not dirty. I don’t think he has bad intentions, he just wants to win. Just haters.
Even during garbage time I think that Turkoglu played reasonably well. He made a nice pass to Hollins and some other that guys didn’t make. He seems a bit slow and it may take some time before he gets into better shape but so far, no harm as a 14th player on the roster.
I know they were doubling Blake and guys were not hitting a lot of outside shots but when West was ejected I didn’t understand why they didn’t go to Blake more often. Even against Scola that could barely prevent Blake from doing whatever he wanted, they didn’t do it and that because he was already in foul trouble and Scola got his another foul but it wasn’t guarding Blake, it was on the offensive end. Without Roy protecting the rim, they should really had given the ball more to Griffin.
Ah, I forgot to mention this. As D.J. Foster often says, “making the clean entry pass is not easy.” Collison and Crawford had a hard time getting the ball to Griffin in a spot that he’s comfortable.
Pacers were also defending the pick and roll really great and I get that but even so, I think they got a bit too passive about it in the second half. But I understand that the spacing shrinks when guys are not hitting outside shots.
The weirdest thing about this game for me was how lost the Clippers’ offense looked at times. More than once Blake got the ball on the high post and it seemed like there was some kind of miscommunication just like the play out of the time out that fortunately ended in a Blake back shot and 1.
But as I didn’t pay much attention I can’t say if the issue was within the Clippers or something caused by Pacers’ D.
even though clippers looked really bad i still think they had a chance down 10. not sure if they gave blake the ball at the time. also missed 2 threes to cut it to 7. maybe back to back had effect as well
Yeah, team slowed down a bit between 3Q/4Q. Blake and DJ’s minutes were pretty heavy in both games – they really need the 3rd big. When the Clippers made that run and the Pacers stretched their lead again, I think that was it, the back-to-back started to wear them down and Doc decided to use the garbage time to play Turkoglu and Darius Morris a little bit more.
I think that if it wasn’t for his lack of lateral movement and bad D, Mullens could still be playing because last games that he played I think he shot well. I wanted to see Turkoglu shooting the 3 but he seem a bit uncomfortable with that since he passed some looks but shot selection is not a bad thing he is 2/2 so far… hahahaha…
ya i was thinking the same early in the ball game and then they were down 10 then 15.
Only thing I have to disagree with is how Hibbert get the benefit of the doubt when he was sitting on the bench the entire 4th qtr. with 4 fouls. I cant remember exactly, but I dont think he played at all in the 4th
I don’t recall offhand, but I think it was the Clippers’ bigs that drew most of the fouls on Hibbert, not the guards. Hibbert’s is rim protection rep is at its highest on dribble penetration.
That being said, fair! He did get into foul trouble, which hasn’t been a huge issue for him this year.
excuses clippers need a lot more athleticism plain and simple in the wing positions without it they cannot win period please clippers get athleticismmmmmmmmmmm
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