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Sasha Vujacic signing alone doesn’t make much sense to occupy the last spot on the roster so it’s either to rest Dudley so he can get healthy or possibly a preparation for the trade deadline. If Vujacic works well, they will be more comfortable moving some guys – more likely shooters – in order to get the defensive big.
Tough loss, even more after guys playing that hard despite being visibly tired, but I can’t say Barnes’ shot was not a bit of lucky as well, but c’mon, they defended the play well, it was a desperation shot but in the end it went in, heartbreaking. This could had moved Clippers closer to a #3 spot in the West. At least next games are finally going to be at LA for more than one night.
Do you think this season is basically a repeat of last season, except with a new coach, giving it a “Freaky Friday” feel? Last season, there was a perfect December, and the Clippers peaked too early which led to their first round exit. This season, they’re losing more games earlier, and the Clippers could be expected to peak late which could cost them home court, the Pacific Division, and a deep playoff run.
Fatigue. Try traveling through all three times zones multiple times in the last two weeks and play 11 games in 17 nights. Even the home games feel like road games.
Not so. When Barnes sunk that 3-pointer at the end of the game, I thought the Clippers had broken their fatigue spell. Especially Barnes, who has lost his 3-point shooting ability. But when that Foye shot went in, everything changed. We have to call it as it is: a loss.
I think this loss is going to haunt the Clippers for the rest of the season. This could prompt Doc Rivers to trade, and according to LA Clipcast, it looks like a trade is going to happen. Will involve Jared Dudley, possibly Reggie Bullock as well.
Poor Dud, out of shape and possibly out of the Clippers. Thought he would make a big impact, but a decent player on a bad team (the past Suns) is always a big question mark.
I think by saying that Barnes lost his shooting ability implies that he had some shooting ability to begin with. Barnes is not a very good shooter. His career 3P% is 33% where if I am not mistaken that that is either league average or slightly below. His highest 3P% came in GSW 2006-07 where it was 37%. His shooting form is really funky looking and his mechanics are just poor to begin with. I just realize that Barnes doesn’t work well when there’s an offensive system in place. He fits better with a run and gun style offense as shown with ATCB last year and the 06-07 Warriors. Plus, he is obviously out of his prime now and he is showing signs that he is not as capable a defender as he used to be. Barnes overall is a more mobile defender than Dudley, but Dudley is the better shooter. If fuse Barnes and Dudley into one player, you basically get Jimmy Butler.
Over half the crap you say baffles me. You really think that because Randy Foye hit a ridiculous shot to steal that win, Doc is going to jump to a trade? You really think because Randy Foye’s prayer from 35 went through, that means the Clippers are doomed, but if he would have missed that shot…all hope is still alive? It’s one loss…and they have been incredible in this stretch without Chris. 11-5 without your best player is great. Take Lebron off the Heat and see how many games they win on a 12 game stretch with 10 on the road. What the Clips are doing is very impressive. Sure they could have won that game, but that doesn’t doom or haunt the clippers, its one game.
If the Clips make a trade it’s not because Foye hit a shot, and the Clippers are fatigued. It’s more likely because Dudley has tendentious issues that are making him unreliable, and Doc has been working on a trade for a while. Making rash judgments and decisions based on a lucky shot is something fans do, not something a smart coach like Doc will do.
Don’t mind Alfredo. His comments are basically trolling CB these days. His insights used to be much more thoughtful than what he puts out these days.
I usually can just ignore it, but that’s just absurd.
At what point will Doc see that Barnes is an offensive liability right now? He (Barnes) also made a lot of defensive and offensive mistakes in his decision making.
very disappointed in Barnes. He’s just not the same player as last year. He’s more the player the Lakers let go and felt was more a liability.
signing a new contract will do that to you…
Barnes accepting more money was a big mistake. Because he felt secure, he lost some of his abilities. He always played well whenever he signed under the veteran minimum because he felt he had something to prove. Now that he has his money, he hasn’t been the same player he was from last season.
Barnes actually took a lot less than what he would have gotten from other teams on the open market to stay in LA. I’ll give him credit for that.
check your facts man, he took significantly less than what he was being offered elsewhere to stay in LA.
Please talk about Marc Davis.
Andrew, how about clips go after Afflalo or Thaddeus then sign a big like Ivan, odom or Collins
Sure. What does ORL/PHI want that LAC has for Afflalo/Thaddeus and how does LAC take back those contracts and stay under the hard cap?
wooo I thought they will pull this out but it only expose the need 4 athleticism infusion in this line-up will improve defense & rebounding – 2 many older slower players no stopper on defensive end especially on the wing positions – in the dog days of the schedule clippers could use more players that are athletic and hungry 4 winning a do whatever is needed 2 win player – there should never be this many games lost on poor defensive play in the last seconds jamal as been in the league 4 years he got 2 improve his poor plays – blake as amazing talent 2 cover up 4 teammate mistake I don’t know if his legs were 2 tired or he was avoiding a foul I thought he could have defended that three point attempt better just jump straight up 2 distract the look he can’t take anything 4 granted
Guys, stop panicking, you got to stop this after bad losses or bad stretches.
For the past few games the Clippers have been playing in a different city every night. Having Home games are a bit deceiving since you’ll fly somewhere else right after the game, it’s almost like a road game but you are able to sleep on your own bed.
Everyone wanted Barnes back and now complaining and putting the blame on him like that is just ridiculous, even more in this situation. Barnes and Dudley are below what people expected but can you really say that they lost because of them? Not at all, a win for a team like the Clippers can’t fall upon 6th or 7th option.
Tough loss but man up, this was much more situational rather than other things.
I don’t think it’s panicking to have concerns over the defense and lack of big man depth. Rotations have looked piss-poor the last few games, which granted, could be partly fatigue setting in. Golden State had their way and looked like passing wizards given the terrible rotations and defensive effort the other night. Letting Faried/Hickson combine for 45pts/23boards (7 offensive) on 65% shooting is concerning. Especially when you consider they both only score around the rim…only 2 of their 45 points came from outside the paint. Clips were -19 and -15 in rebounding margin against GS and Den respectively. That’s a lack of effort. I love the clips, but it’s ignorant to ignore the glaring defensive issue that is holding them back from their potential.
I whole-heatedly agree it’s illogical to blame Barnes/Dudley (especially after Barnes nailed that 3 in the final moments). The Clips shouldn’t have been in a close game. They grab a few more defensive boards, and it’s a comfortable win. 9 of 10 Denver players had at least 1 offensive rebound. That’s a lack of boxing out and commitment to rebounding across the board. The issue seems to be a combination of fatigue, and focus on fundamental defense and rebounding. I believe Blake/DJ can anchor a great defense, but they need some help. If you make them play 40 mins a night they will wear down, and the backup bigs are not capable of holding the ship afloat defensively when Blake/DJ catch a breath on the sideline.
I think that’s what Doc is working on…what kind of front court depth can be added by moving Dudley.
Panicking and concerns are two different things. I also have concerns about all those things, the difference is how you put it, if you present arguments AND try to show some solutions or if you act like the world is ending, just whining and shouting, that’s the difference. Those that didn’t act like panickers shouldn’t feel offended and neither the panickers, since I was just pointing out.
About Dudley, that’s what I said when they added Vujacic. That signing alone doesn’t make sense unless you are going to rest Dudley so he can get healthy OR it’s a preparation move because they are expecting to trade a shooter or two.
It should be pretty obvious that the greatest need should be another big man. I’m quite confused as to why Doc and the front staff keep going for these wings when the team is constantly getting out-rebounded and hustled on the boards. Two years ago the Clippers had a much better chance against a team like Grizzlies because guys like Kenyon Martin and Reggie Evans were beasts on the boards and in the case of Martin actually played great defense. Come playoff time if the Clippers don’t find the necessary big man, it will be a huge challenge for them to reach the goals of getting to the Finals.
Other than that I’m not too worried about this team’s make-up. I feel Barnes, Dudley, and the rest of the team will play better once Paul comes back and Blake continues his torrid play.
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