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Nice W, after holding double digit leads two times, it’s nice to be able to come back both times and finish strong, getting stops and making buckets. Ina game that Blake didn’t have it going it’s good to see that Clippers can count on Crawford getting hot and as a bonus, to have Barnes playing well, hitting 3s and grabbing rebounds.
Blake didn’t play well, got in foul trouble for most of the game and even so, managed to put 20/7/6, he was also able to get back from poor start FG% to end 6-of-15 and did the same with the FT% and finished with 70%. This “bad game” from the New Blake is pretty good, huh? LOL.
But the thing is, had this ended in a loss, panickers would be all over Blake – possibly – and saying absurds like he and CP3 can’t play together, same way they did last game when CP3 shot badly and he was still able to put 18/6/14 while people doing such nonsense claims. For a bad game, either 20/7/6 or 18/6/14 is pretty good and that should not be evaluated by the W or the L, which is a team issue – when you shoot badly, can’t hit FT and your bench simply can’t neither defend or make shots, for instance.
Sometimes I feel like some fans need to be educated about what it means to really support a team and how to have patience instead of rushing into precipitated – and stupid – conclusions while panicking.
I actually was one of the few who wanted to see a 3-game losing streak for the Clippers; just one. Remember in the lockout season when the Clips lost to Oklahoma, Indiana and New Orleans? The third game featured a flagrant foul on Jason Smith to Blake Griffin. That was the day when the franchise panicked and were clamoring to make a move. All things calmed down when Chauncey Billups returned from surgery. They missed his calming presence, that NBA Finals MVP man who defeated the invincible Phil Jackson and the Los Angeles Lakers in 2004. They know he wasn’t playing, but he instilled confidence in a highly emotional team.
Throughout the entire season, the Clippers have avoided 3-game losing streaks. No team in NBA history has ever come out of a 0-3 deficit in the playoffs. I bet you that if any team had at least 3 losses in a row, the team would falter in the playoffs automatically. Doc Rivers is teaching this team how not to fall into that streaking trap. Just because you lose two games in a row doesn’t mean it’s all over, but the mindset of 3 in a row is too great. It’s too risky to beat the odds, so to speak. You have to learn how to overcome adversity of all kinds, and the Clips are kind of getting it.
I just hope I don’t become the fan who jinxes the Clips into a 3-game losing streak, either now or in the playoffs. Then again, the Clips deserve to be the first to come out of a 0-3 deficit. Not because they need a challenge, but to show how far they’ve grown from a frugal franchise to a hopeful contender.
I also thought about that but when I balanced between Clips getting a blessing in disguise and fans panicking, I prefered the W. I think that Clippers already got enough of silver lining with the injuries and this time it wouldn’t be the franchise panicking, just the fans, so there would be not too much to learn from.
In all honesty, I think Clippers are far more mature than that, if they still needed that by now, they couldn’t be counted as contenders. Right now, Clippers’ biggest issue is really getting healthy and differently from now, healthy will be no excuse coming Playoffs.
Nobody will care if they have Redick or not, they don’t care how much difference he makes – because he does -, if the Clippers lose in the first round because if health issues, all analysts are going to say is that the Clippers are not a contender yet, that they still need this and that, they are going to say that CP3 can’t win in the playoffs, etc, etc.
And that the Clips need a better superstar than Blake Griffin like Kevin Love or his closest comrade Carmelo Anthony.
But remember: Clips have a chance at a True Big 3 this season by going after Danny Granger. It seemed like he’ll go to an automatic ring winner like the Heat or Spurs, but with a home here in L.A., Doc could persuade Granger into being his Paul Pierce. Even if Granger’s tank is empty, Doc desires that Celtics mystique. Not to mention Granger sharing Manning’s first name. Blast from the past?
I can’t agree with none of that.
Kevin Love can’t even take his team to the Playoffs and for me Blake has a higher ceiling than Love. And even when Kevin Love was getting that very hot start of the season and MVP considerations and lots of guys, inclusing Clipperblog people, was just drooling all over him and saying they would trade Blake for Love, I could never agree with that because I still believed that Blake would have a breakout year. And as of now, as we have seen that, more and more of those guys are getting back to not make that Love and Blake swap.
Melo is a player that I like, but he won’t fit with the Clippers, this team is much better with Blake and CP3 and guys like DJ, Redick and Crawford. With CP3 and Blake, you have no room for a player like Melo, a third guy needing the ball? The Heat barely made that work and that with Chris Bosh having to sacrifice too much of his game. And as they adjusted the seond year absed on those 3, now they don’t think they have enough to keep that up in the Playoffs without a healthy D-Wade.
Clippers don’t need a big 3 in the same mold as the Heat and although Granger could make a come back from his injury, that’s not really needed and even if Granger could play Pierce’s role, I wouldn’t call them a Big 3, he would need to be an All-Star – at least – for me to call them Big 3. I’m still a bit held back to believe Clippers can get Granger. He wasn’t bought out or waived and there are more teams that will go after him. I would really love to have him as a Clipper and I do believe that he will play better than he did with the Pacers this season – mainly because he will have a defined role and he will be able to get a chance, behind George he would never get that – but even so, I don’t think he can play at All-Star level, not this season.
Granger was an All Star in 2009 as a reserve. He was the 33rd pick in the second round of the 2005 NBA Draft, selected by the Philadelphia 76ers (he was a draft day trade). Pacers basically turned him into a franchise player. I posted something about that on the RealGM Forums, which you can read here:
Granger was an athletic wing who was a similar type of player to Corey Maggette but who actually had a jump shot. We basically need Granger to hit open shots, play great defense, and slash a little. Without a slasher to keep defenses honest, the Clippers won’t do well. I know Granger has lost some of his athleticism, but he should be in his athletic prime despite the injuries. He’s also a huge upgrade to Barnes and Dudley. If anything, I think Barnes’ game today was a fluke.
In the end, Clippers can’t rely on just a Granger possibility, so I prefer to hope that it wasn’t just a fluke. Sure he won’t score like that or even rebound like that but if he can do a bit more than 50% of what he did today, that will be an upgrade already.
Hey, it hasn’t been a fluke so far, he is right on what I expected of him last 2 games, half of what he had done against OKC and now with Granger as very possible signing, this is getting good.
Barnes might be putting in the extra work to hit his shots because he knows the Granger signing is imminent and will cut into his playing time. Barnes has played better the last few games after playing a third of the season as an offensive liability.
hahahaha… I hardly think things work like that, even more because it was only yesterday that the possible Granger signing became a thing. Do you really think if he could control if his shots will or not fall, he would had done so already? By the same logic he should had done that before the trade deadline, so he didn’t become a possible trade chip like he did.
The thing with Barnes is that his shooting percentages were never really that good. He’s a career below league average shooter. His shooting form and stroke is really funky and has a hitch to it which always surprises me when it actually goes in. It’s possibly a combination of knowing that he’s staying with the team at least for the remainder of the season and hearing that Granger may supplant him once signed as a rotation player. Barnes will likely go back to the bench while Dudley will probably fall out of the rotation altogether.
But Barnes wasn’t really about shooting, he can shoot but he is a good cutter and defender – although it’s been a while since he had played great D, he has been a bit one step slow but nonetheless, a good enough defender.
To be off the pressure of being traded helps, Ray Allen, used to shoot better after trade deadlines – which is also one of the reason he left Boston, he never knew if he was going to be traded – but as I said, Granger as a reason doesn’t make much sense since the talks only got real very recently.
I think they can even play Barnes and Granger together if he is shooting well, the problem is that Clippers need one or two wings shooting well enough to have proper spacing, when they dont’, like when Green was the starting SG, it’s so easy to double Blake and mass with the spacing. But as Blake is playing better, that might not be a big problem, but let’s not make his like harder.
I agree. It is definitely about the spacing. In the games against Memphis and San Antonio after the ASG break, defenders were sagging off of Barnes/Dudley and daring them to shoot whenever they were on the court and they weren’t hitting open shots. For stretches of this season, Barnes and Dudley have had open shots but just couldn’t knock them down. That made Blake have to work extra hard and especially while CP3 was hurt, Blake played at an MVP level in carrying the team. Barnes is a good cutter which helps throw misdirection against opposing defenses. However, Barnes has lost a step because of age. Granger’s wing-span is invaluable (7’1) and will help. I’ve been saying this all season but the championship contending teams have long wing defenders – LBJ, KD/Sefalosha, Batum, Leonard, the entire Pacers team (they’re long at EVERY position), Iguodala. Having those stoppers will help.
The contenders have good wing defenders and that’s what they thought they could get out of Barnes but from the Barnes I remember from Orlando, he is already passed that but as I said, still a good defender, but not a great one, not the one that bothered Kobe in the Finals. Well, hopefully Clippers can sign Granger and more importantly, I hope Redick get healthy, that will have an even bigger impact and if they do, well, this team can really go very far.
I’m aware of that and that’s why I said he needed to get back at that All-Star level, but the Clippers don’t need an All Star Granger and after so many injuries, I don’t think he can, but nonetheless I don’t expect that, I just want a solid SF, just that and that’s just what the Clippers need, the extra would be a bonus, but not a requirement.
If Clippers can put together a considerably healthy CP3, Redick, Granger, Blake, DJ, Collison, Crawford, Barnes, Dudley, Turkoglu and Davis, that’s more than enough to get to the Finals. But that’s a bit of a long shot but who knows?
Granger is worse than DeAndre this season. Just saying let’s temper those expectations.
I hope nobody goes to that place when they down play the Clippers and asks if this was much of a Clippers’ W or a OKC’ loss or saying that they only won because Crawford got hot or something like that because Fisher was pretty hot shooting those 3s and I think they cancel each other.
Crawford played great. I also thought CP3 played much better. Barnes and Dj played great also I think some bad calls hurt BG. The refs were terrible in this game. Very one sided. Besides Big Baby who do you think we should pick up.
Don’t forget to take my Twitter question. It’s about Doc needing Big Baby because the entire team doesn’t understand Doc’s system (and it’s not just the bigs, this including the starters). He needed somebody from his 2008 team in order to streamline the defense, an example specimen who knows how to rotate, box out, and avoid fouling.
I think Rondo has a higher wingspan:height ratio
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