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Can we beat San Antonio or OKC with Matt Barnes playing crucial minutes at the three? His inconsistent shooting and questionable decision making can hurt us in the playoffs. Also, do you see teams we face in the playoffs doubling Blake right away? What is our best counter to that strategy?
I think that in the Playoffs the DT on Blake wouldn’t be as effective as it was in this game. Because they would run different plays in order to allow Blake to score and after watching some video they would be able to figure which man is leaving their man open so Blake can either pass directly or try to collapse the D and guys on the perimeter can move the bal until they find an open man. BTW on the offensive boards Mavs did just that, with the D not set, they moved the ball until they could find either an open man or a favorable mismatch, Clippers got to be able to do the same when they double Blake.
I think against OKC it will matter more if Barnes can somewhat limit Durant. JJ Redick and Jamal Crawford units might make appearances if Barnes shooting is really off against San Antonio.
Have you heard any updates on JJ? also what’s the news on Granger?
Strained left hamstring. Will be evaluated. May end up being out a couple games.
Doc said he expects him back before playoffs. Heard that from Ralph pre game
From the situation and him flying with the team in this roadtrip, it seems that he might be back after the roadtrip to get some games under his belt before Playoffs.
Is it a cause of concern that the bench has been struggling to play well together, too often allowing opponents to make runs and giving up leads?
Is it again Collison + Crawford combo together on the floor? Sometimes it does give this impression.
I know they are freshly assembled in this configuration and they have barely played together as a unit because of injuries but it’s complicated when the starters have to hustle so much to try to regain leads even more at this point of the season.
I also know that the bench will see less minutes when Playoffs comes but it’s quite frustrating to watch if this continues to happen. Other Playoffs teams’ bench are solid for the most part and that sequence in which the Clippers allowed a 16-4 or something run was just horrible to watch, nothing going on on the offensive end, long balls after another, sloppy passes, TO, giving up offensive boards and second chances.
Crawford had been injured for 8ish games, which resulted in Collison playing with the first unit. I believe we acquired Granger and Davis 12 games ago. Basically its a case of none of these players having played any minutes as a unit before, while on the other hand the other team has been fielding bench units made up of players familiar with each other.
On the other hand, I don’t see the bench unit getting much time in the last 10 games to gel together so maybe worry? Its still a better bench than one manned by Mullens and Jamison. At this point our bench will be a plus against some teams in the West (Golden State, Memphis, Portland), a minus against some teams (OKC, San Antonio, Phoenix), and a coin flip on how well they are playing against the rest (Houston, Dallas).
In another words, you basically agreed with me using different words? hahahaha…
The major problem has been the injuries, which ends up limiting the consistency for them to get acclimated with each other. Nobody cares if they did have time together or not, if teams see the bench as the weak link, they are going to attack exactly that. But despite they not getting a lot of minutes during the Playoffs, in a close game, that can simply kill the team if they give up runs like that because that will certainly start to affect the team mentally.
What I see though is that this is a bench made by vets and as such, in theory, they are likely to gel faster. But that’s also why I asked about Collison and Crawford because their style of play doesn’t match very well. When they were playing their normal roles – which turned to not be the “normal” because of injuries – they were not playing well.
This “normal” is before Redick got hurt for the first time, after some tests with Green, Crawford became a starter, just to come off the bench when Redick got back and Collison got the starting position when CP3 went down and after that Crawford started again before he got hurt and being replaced by Collison. Somehow, maybe, the injuries ended up avoiding playing both together many minutes and masked their lack of chemistry.
In another words, ever since the first Redick injury, they have not played their “classic/normal” roles and when they were, they were not playing well. The noise here is that it was too early into the season and the bench as a whole was struggling playing within the system, which can’t be the case anymore since Davis knows it and Granger kind of knows too since Pacers’ system is not THAT different.
So, was that really noise or Collison and Crawford become a liability playing together as part of the bench unit? All of these are complicated matters to have at this point of the competition, even more when other teams don’t have this problem.
Can a veteran bench use their experience to catch up and make up for the lack of time playing together? I hope so, I also hope that if Redick comes back well, the starting unit will have so much momentum during games that the bench might feed up from that or become less of a problem. Also because Doc will have more options to rotate Redick, Collison and Crawford, avoiding as much as he can playing Crawford and Collison together.
The good thing though is that everytime the team had this type of struggles, Doc made a move that worked.
Well, no. My point is at the end of the day bench isn’t going to matter much during the playoffs. Not many teams in the West have a bench thats great and the few that do probably won’t have enough time to create a huge point differential. So you can worry about it but in the first round the bigger issue against every team, except if were somehow matched up with Phoenix, will be the wing positions in the starting unit. The bench will improve in the next 10 games, like you kinda mentioned but inevitably there will be holes and theres no chance they get fixed by the time the playoffs start.
To answer paragraphs 3-6 definitely more the fact that the bench is made up of recent additions and players who have been recently injured for the lapses than Crawford and Collison being a poor backcourt combo.
Also theres no real way to attack the bench besides trying to get players into foul trouble, which isn’t the most reliable strategy. The Clippers aren’t going to play back to backs, so they will be somewhat well rested for each game. So if the other team forces Docs hands to play Griffin, Jordan and Paul 45 minutes a game so be it. It won’t be a positive or negative for either team(Clippers have slightly more tired players, while our starting unit will have racked up points against there bench).
For the most part, you really seem to be saying similar things.
The problem is not playing time and neither that other team’s bench are not great. 3 empty offensive possessions and the other team can make a run.
You can mess up in little time, just like Clippers went scoreless for some possessions and bad TO. And just like that the other team doesn’t have to have a great bench, just a solid one, one in which players know their role and that already have potential to become a liability.
As I said, it might not become a big deal but playing down other’s bench doesn’t really help making a case because between a bad bench and a not so great but solid one, the difference can be big.
Should the Clippers go after a defensive specialist in the vein of Ron Artest, and who? They just don’t know how to grab rebounds properly, except for DeAndre Jordan.
At this point of the season there is no reason to believe the Clippers will go after somebody – unless something happens. And I think that with the 15th spot open Clippers is in a better salary situation and filling that last spot wouldn’t worth financially as well.
Then it means Clippers have no other choice but to allow offensive rebounds and contest shots in hopes the rebound luckily comes their way, maybe risk a few fouls here and there just to regain possession.
If a player was to join a team at this point in the season wouldn’t be eligible for the playoffs….
Actually, if a player has never been in an NBA team this whole season, they can still be eligible for the playoffs. Only players who have been waived or bought out after the waiver cutoff date are ineligible to join a playoff team. Ben Gordon is the only player in the NBA who cannot join a playoff team because he was waived after the cutoff date.
So a player like Lamar Odom, Baron Davis, Bobby Brown or any D-League or overseas player can still make the cut.
i think blakes 1 on 1 d is pretty good. it is his help D that needs a lot of work
Yeah, sometimes he doesn’t rotate like he should and they give up a lay up, DJ does that as well, less often though, Davis is way better than both of them in the help D, much better. No wonder he had so many charges and no wonder when asked what Doc liked about Davis, he answered “his feet”.
what is your ideal starting lineup and bench?
what free agent would you target for next year’s team?
It now looks like nobody is favorable. Clips will be forced to go up against a team they either hate or know will get the best of them. Fear is a tangible feeling – they must face their fears if the Clips want to survive in the playoffs.
Dallas, Portland, Houston, Golden State and Phoenix all look pretty favorable to me. Portland has been playing awful as of late. Golden State has had serious issues all season long, recently highlighted by releasing assistant coaches for internal problems. Both Dallas and Houston we’ve crushed all season long. And I don’t see Phoenix’s reliance on its bench and high energy play(Everyone has a lot of energy in the playoffs) transferring that well from the regular season to the playoffs. Memphis is easily the toughest first round opponent, but there offense has been really bad this season plus I can’t see Randolph and Gasol shutting down Griffin as they’ve done in years past. Honestly any first round opponent looks good to me and the Clippers don’t “fear” anyone.
Being that the Western Conference has been so tough this season, its possible either OKC or San Antonio gets upset before the Clippers have the chance to play them. On the same note, pretty much any team can beat the Clippers under the right conditions. No team will be dominant in the Western Conference and if the right situations appear any team could potentially make a run to the NBA finals. However, I don’t think you should mistake this as the Clippers fearing other teams.
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